Rovers are above us now aren't they?

Yes, of course.

Tonight’s win for Hull has seen us fall further behind Rovers.

We continue to chase their shadow.

A good season could help attract missing fans back next season...especially if we can get to the semi finals in the play offs at the least

We thought that about this season/year! Nearly July and looks how it's all turned out

Winter soon aswell you know when flu season starts again!

Better home form is key. As we all know we haven't won many at home in recent years. Tonight wasn't pretty but the fans appreciate a good effort in difficult circumstances.

Yes I can read thanks. Got the wrong post to highlight my mistake.

Interesting thoughts from Shane Richardson on the state of SL

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Wouldent rule out his letter has gone to Pearson as they did negotiate the stadium deal back in the day, so at least know each other.

Agreed and wouldn’t be too surprised if AP has spoken to Shane Richardson.

Can’t argue or disagree with much of what he says really. The same situation happened in British Ice Hockey shortly after Heineken pulled out and money was difficult for top clubs to come by so they set up their own league and called it the IS and left the BIHA though still needed them for officials etc. It never worked and after fell flat on its face with the league going under, then became the EIHL but on the way teams smaller teams folded, struggled or pulled out the league. That seriously hampered the game here in the U.K.

The similarities are there to see and burn the RFL and SL need to get together and work as one for the good of the game as without each other the game is finished. Unfortunately clubs can not run things themselves because ATEOTD each club no matter what they say have their own interests at heart and you wouldn’t expect it any other way. The whole sport needs to be run as one with a fully independent body making decisions that will never be liked universally but they would be made for the good of the game.

I seem to recall how Ice Hockey imploded quite quickly but wasn't it always on a knife edge, the early promise of it being a prime sport seemed to ebb away.

Do you think there could ever be a consensus of the chairmen that funds that go to RFL are put towards running a seperate entity to include luring officials and those that organise and run the admin of the sport, whilst ditching the roles that we've seen in the past that contribute little to nothing (and do so for significant sums of money)?
I don't know how that financial contribution would work but it would need all on board to agree as to how to fund a body/organisation away from the RFL.

I don't think anyone would say that the RFL is streamlined, maybe the threat of revolution not evolution is what is needed and that the clubs through this seperate entity can run the administration and officials of at least the top 3 tiers.

I certainly can't see the changes that are needed will come through the RFL in its current guise because I think the workings/set up of it as an entity is out of date and has been failing for 40 years. No matter how much you 'work' with it, it's stuck in the past and not effective or efficient at what it does as a guardian of running the game.

Not sure why the Dobbins are crowing. Sorry, did I miss their new owner taking over?
Other than two or three clubs, every club is in the same boat. Pearson said that himself.
Think the comparison to EIH is a good one. Also think that if rugby league isn’t careful, we’ll drop into that level of sport where EIH is now - a minority one.
The cumulative effect of persistent bad management (clubs and the RFL) is now catching up with the sport, post covid.

That’s not denigrating EIH either. Like rugby league , it’s a great sport that deserves wider exposure. Hull Pirates is a great way to spend an evening.

I think its fair to say all clubs are in the same boat to be honest as the game itself is possibly precariously positioned and it would only take one club to go and it would likely be like house of cards with others tumbling. It doesn't matter how much money a club has if the opposition teams in the leaguie disappear.

With regards to the Ice Hockey comparision I made the sport is a great sport and much like RL has so much to offer but sadly due to mismanagement of the sport from top to bottom by the governing bodies and clubs themselves (particularly the arena teams namely Sheffield at the start) it imploded once the supportive arm of the main sports sponsor pulled out.
The similarities for me between the two sports is actually quite frightening as I was closely involved with the Ice Hockey teams (Seahawks & Hawks days) and see the same situation looming if the RFL and SL owners don't get there act together for the good of the game rather than themselves.

For the sport to grow it must work as a cohesive group from top to bottom and evolve with the times, for me the RFL still seem in the most part to come across as flat cap and whippet and certain SL clubs seem more interested in self serving and parochial. They need to act and act quickly before it is too late.

Rovers and Hull need each other, the Derby games are by far the biggest income of the season, and then there's a massive amount of free Marketing from all the banter and workplace chatter between the two sets of fans. While it was funny to see Rovers go down in dramatic circumstances I was glad to see them back in SL.