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Quote: Armavinit "Was told yesterday that both Hull clubs are being run into the ground, so Koukash can buy em out and MERGE em. RFL backing him and will play out of brand new stadium, hence Birds Eye.'"



Then you should stop listening to those voices in your head.

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Quote: Keiththered "Which bright spark told you that?'"


Voices in his head

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For me the concern isn't the results or the league position. We're told that we're changing our outlook, concentrating on bringing youngsters through rather than signing big names etc and that's always going to take time. Saints have had some poor seasons by their standards of late while they've been fielding kids but it's stood them in good stead because they now have a crop of youngsters with loads of first team experience.

What does alarm me is the amount of players going backwards - including some who you would think would be at the heart of this 'team Hull' business. Lineham and Crooks are the obvious examples but there's Chris Green as well - all a shadow of the players that impressed under Gentle. Jamie Shaul, arguably, not as good as he was last season. Micky Paea nowhere near as good as he was for Rovers last season. Richard Whiting completely bombed out. Watts has been poor. There have been some successes - Westerman, Abdull, Lacaster - but overall the individual players are regressing and the team is getting worse.

So even if you excuse the results, the league position, the questionable man management with young players being publicly bombed out to Doncaster, the inconsistent team selections where players are started one week then dropped altogether the next, the odd behaviour in the transfer market where we've signed people like Carvell and Colbon for no apparent reason only to cast them aside almost immediately, the alarming media statements such as last week's laugh-a-minute claim that Talanoa is one of the best wingers in the competition (presumably we'd find out if he ever went and stood on the chuffin wing) and wrote it all off as inevitable teething problems of a long term project, what faith can you have in Radford to carry out the long term project when players who should be key to it are getting worse?

I thought he was a lousy, ill-disciplined player for us second time around. I thought he was a dreadful captain, standing silently and blowing out of his ars under the posts after we conceded tries while giving away penalties for fun. I think he sounds like that annoying bloke down the pub who reckons he knows everything but actually hasn't got a brain in his head. And so far as coach I think he's been appalling.

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Quote: BarnetFC "For me the concern isn't the results or the league position. We're told that we're changing our outlook, concentrating on bringing youngsters through rather than signing big names etc and that's always going to take time. Saints have had some poor seasons by their standards of late while they've been fielding kids but it's stood them in good stead because they now have a crop of youngsters with loads of first team experience.

What does alarm me is the amount of players going backwards - including some who you would think would be at the heart of this 'team Hull' business. Lineham and Crooks are the obvious examples but there's Chris Green as well - all a shadow of the players that impressed under Gentle. Jamie Shaul, arguably, not as good as he was last season. Micky Paea nowhere near as good as he was for Rovers last season. Richard Whiting completely bombed out. Watts has been poor. There have been some successes - Westerman, Abdull, Lacaster - but overall the individual players are regressing and the team is getting worse.

So even if you excuse the results, the league position, the questionable man management with young players being publicly bombed out to Doncaster, the inconsistent team selections where players are started one week then dropped altogether the next, the odd behaviour in the transfer market where we've signed people like Carvell and Colbon for no apparent reason only to cast them aside almost immediately, the alarming media statements such as last week's laugh-a-minute claim that Talanoa is one of the best wingers in the competition (presumably we'd find out if he ever went and stood on the chuffin wing) and wrote it all off as inevitable teething problems of a long term project, what faith can you have in Radford to carry out the long term project when players who should be key to it are getting worse?

I thought he was a lousy, ill-disciplined player for us second time around. I thought he was a dreadful captain, standing silently and blowing out of his ars under the posts after we conceded tries while giving away penalties for fun. I think he sounds like that annoying bloke down the pub who reckons he knows everything but actually hasn't got a brain in his head. And so far as coach I think he's been appalling.'"


This. Couldn't agree more.

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Quote: beetwaste "This. Couldn't agree more.'"


Seconded.

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One of the posts of the year,says it all. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Keiththered "Which bright spark told you that?'"

Sorry my sense of humour, it's the sun here in Zante, gone to my head, didn't think for a minute a Rovers fan would bite on our board icon_twisted.gif I'm sick and tired of the keyboard warriors prattling on about Radford out/Pearson's a tossre. We're not sleeping giants and as for our proud record, "The Panzer Pack" won a title using the play off system in the 50' and contributed to a record number of defeats at Wembley. Sorry to say it but Rovers won more than us in the 80's. We messed about in 2000's. Baldy's correct to say we've seen worse, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's,2000's and now 2010's comes to mind. Get over yourselve,s. It will come good, you'll just have to wait a bit longer icon_cry.gif

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Quote: fc baldy "Powell also had the luxury of Chase buggering off.'"

Didn't do too bad last night though icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Salford 1961 "Didn't do too bad last night though

No he didn't but look at how well Cas have gone since he left.

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Quote: Hessle Roader "No he didn't but look at how well Cas have gone since he left.'"

Well you should be just as good next year now you've signed up Marc Sneyd!

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Quote: Salford 1961 "Didn't do too bad last night though
Wow.....where you in the league

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Quote: fc baldy "Wow.....where you in the league'"



Oh Baldy, you just beat me to it!!!

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Quote: Salford 1961 "Well you should be just as good next year now you've signed up Marc Sneyd!'"


Sneyd is currently 4 th in the league on loan with the team who you signed Chase off.....can you see the connection.......only goes to to clubs in the bottom of the table........all the big clubs have needed half backs....we couldn't sort the visa out,Sts,Wigan and Warrington all looked elsewhere than Chase.....he is a over-rated petulant thug.

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Like BarnetFC said we are going backwards with some very strange decisions being made and people being randomly being dropped. If we are going with youth why is Crooks playing for Donny today instead of Tallanoa being played out of position last night. Blaming the half back situation is the easy way out, Wire beat us with Myler and O'Brien, at home Widnes did us with Brown (who got injured) and Gilmore and Wakefield with Sykes and Sjieka. Last week Wire had Bridge and O'Brien. We beat Leeds with Richard Whiting at Standoff with Peter Gentle, a lot of it is about the game plan and we don't seem to have one.

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Quote: BarnetFC "We're told that we're changing our outlook, concentrating on bringing youngsters through rather than signing big names etc and that's always going to take time.'"


That's this year. Last year you were going to splash the cash on Chase, Prince etc & win trophies. Next year's likely to be different again. Adam's a snake oil salesman. A marketing man. You'll have a different 'brand' every year.

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