[quote="Large Paws":11bfi029][/b] Already part of the master plan[/quote:11bfi029] I’m only speculating but I think any NRL influence in SL would just turbo charge any plans for mergers. They’d look at clubs like Hull and Rovers and think they could make a Brisbane type super club. On paper it makes sense, but we know it would be a disaster.

[quote="The Dentist Wilf"]I fear it may be one of them. If i was to place a bet, i would say it's Wainhouse. Not that he doesn't want to be here but more his attitude. Believing in his own hype shall we say.

[quote="RockNRolla"] I heard Wainhouse was fuming not to get a squad jersey this year

[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog":3r6yn9q1]I heard Wainhouse was fuming not to get a squad jersey this year [/quote:3r6yn9q1] Is this the same source who told you that Cross was a done deal?

Read on Twitter this morning from a Cas fan that he's heard Staveley is going for a trial with them on Monday. Seems a weird situation to go for a trial the week then season starts. If anything hopefully it's just a short term loan with us been able to recall at any point.

[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog"] Nor should he have, only players who’ve played first team got a squad number, also Kirby missed out on one initially despite playing first team last season.

[quote="FC Callum":2vl8w3ke] Nor should he have, only players who’ve played first team got a squad number, also Kirby missed out on one initially despite playing first team last season. [/quote:2vl8w3ke] Some of the younger lads were at the player signing event when people collected their passes. They all had a squad number on their training gear and were signing autographs, some of them with their numbers underneath. Edit: Just realised I'm wrong with this. Kirby is pictured wearing training gear with the number 59 on but named as being number 32 on the team sheet. Apologies.

[quote="Hasbag":nkrbjb0x]Read on Twitter this morning from a Cas fan that he's heard Staveley is going for a trial with them on Monday. Seems a weird situation to go for a trial the week then season starts. If anything hopefully it's just a short term loan with us been able to recall at any point.[/quote:nkrbjb0x] I did try to tell you a couple of times what his future or otherwise at the club was, without divulging confidences of course.

[quote="The Dentist Wilf":3i6gj7f5]I did try to tell you a couple of times what his future or otherwise at the club was, without divulging confidences of course.[/quote:3i6gj7f5] It’s on totalrl com that he’s going to Cas on trial

Very strange move, if he goes the club need to be honest with the reasons we have released him, I'm not buying he wouldn't get games for Hull either, a fit Staveley would be close to our 17. We had a thin squad and that's him and Abdul potentially gone.

[quote="Dave K.":395gb9zp]Very strange move, if he goes the club need to be honest with the reasons we have released him, I'm not buying he wouldn't get games for Hull either, a fit Staveley would be close to our 17. We had a thin squad and that's him and Abdul potentially gone.[/quote:395gb9zp] Agreed. I'll stick with what I said the other day though, we need players who want to play for the club. Two sides to every story, and I'm fairly sure the care he'll have received during his injury will have been a contributing factor. A few quotes online from a relative saying he was a forgotten man. But equally, it's a new start for everyone now and if the fit isn't right for both parties then we're better off parting ways now. Real shame though as from the outside, that's one of our better talents on the way out.

It's a surprise move. I thought Staveley looked good in his brief appearances but if he wants away then bye bye. His dad has been a critic of the club, back end of last year he said "Got decent coaching in place, just get him fit and hopefully see what happens. Still some in that place who steal a wage, or not fit for purpose. I’d never say that about a player but back room part of the regime definitely." It leaves us short though, as has been said this will be two players gone and not yet replaced.

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":2ry1tdan]It's a surprise move. I thought Staveley looked good in his brief appearances but if he wants away then bye bye. His dad has been a critic of the club, back end of last year he said "Got decent coaching in place, just get him fit and hopefully see what happens. Still some in that place who steal a wage, or not fit for purpose. I’d never say that about a player but back room part of the regime definitely." It leaves us short though, as has been said this will be two players gone and not yet replaced.[/quote:2ry1tdan] Opens the door for Kirby and Jebson to step up, but currently would have had Staveley well ahead of both. Wonder what it means for his younger brother too who signed for the academy last year.

He looked a good young player in the games he had last year but Cartwright is seeing a hell of a lot more than we all are. Looks like he could be a big loss but Cartwright's judgement means a lot more than any of ours, and hopefully a decision he doesn't come to regret.

Also his younger brother has just signed for us too. Something must have gone on.

With this new Dec 1st rule this type of thing was always going to happen. See the Rovers/Wakefield situation with the two young outside backs, can see the logic of letting someone go a year early if you know they’ve already sorted their future elsewhere. I know players always got tapped up but with the deadline in May there was always time for the dust to settle and get the season started to see where everyone stood before most of the decisions had been made. Myler has hinted it could work in our favour too, hope so as this leaves us short.

[quote="DSJ1983":1nfknw1f]With this new Dec 1st rule this type of thing was always going to happen. See the Rovers/Wakefield situation with the two young outside backs, can see the logic of letting someone go a year early if you know they’ve already sorted their future elsewhere. I know players always got tapped up but with the deadline in May there was always time for the dust to settle and get the season started to see where everyone stood before most of the decisions had been made. Myler has hinted it could work in our favour too, hope so as this leaves us short.[/quote:1nfknw1f] Problem is if you release all of the players early who have signed elsewhere you would not have enough players. He shouldn't be released without a replacement lined up, leaves our pack looking short, we aren't talking about an academy player, he would be close to our 17 IMO.

The deadline thing is also for players signing for next year, which if that's the case then fair enough, but this sounds like we could be releasing him immediately and leaving ourselves a player down (and one of the most promising looking ones) for the upcoming season. That's 2 players down so far in 2025!

[quote="Dave K.":37m4yyos]Problem is if you release all of the players early who have signed elsewhere you would not have enough players. He shouldn't be released without a replacement lined up, leaves our pack looking short, we aren't talking about an academy player, he would be close to our 17 IMO.[/quote:37m4yyos] Agree. It’s up to us now to maybe work the rule work in our favour and get someone in. Can’t see anyone of note who’d fit the bill though. I reckon it was all in the plan with Byrne, but they didn’t account for Wire and the fact that Wigan are the last club that will be bullied into doing something they don’t want.

Was hoping out days of chopping and changing too much, we're coming to an end. Still hoping the Staveley rumours aren't true.

[quote="Dave K.":2jlwnj3e]Was hoping out days of chopping and changing too much, we're coming to an end. Still hoping the Staveley rumours aren't true.[/quote:2jlwnj3e] The writing has been on the wall. His old man was saying he’s the forgotten man and that there’s people at the club stealing a living as far back as November. He’s obviously unhappy for whatever reason, it’s a shame as he might be a top player but if he wants to move on maybe best for both in the long run.

His dad has shared the LE story on twitter, so he's as good as gone. Seems an odd one from us, looked handy in tje 2/3 games he played before his ACL

His Dad has always been critical of the club. Maybe needs to form a WhatsApp group with Liam Watts’ father? In this new approach, there’s going to be casualties along the way. Some we don’t always agree with. Whatever happens, this bullish approach is better than the chronic malaise we’ve endured since 2018.

The story on Total RL is: CASTLEFORD TIGERS have swooped for Hull FC forward Nick Staveley, League Express understands. The 21-year-old has played just eight games for Hull FC after debuting for the club in 2023, but did play 13 times for Newcastle Thunder in 2023. League Express understands that Staveley has joined the Tigers on a trial basis after agreeing terms with Hull FC to leave the Super League club. Castleford have been crying out for new firepower in their forward pack, with head coach Danny McGuire previously revealing that a deal for Salford Red Devils prop Jack Ormondroyd was on the “back-burner”. The Tigers only currently have George Griffin, Liam Watts, George Lawler and Muizz Mustapha in the front-row.

[quote="Hasbag":16momsfj]The deadline thing is also for players signing for next year, which if that's the case then fair enough, but this sounds like we could be releasing him immediately and leaving ourselves a player down (and one of the most promising looking ones) for the upcoming season. That's 2 players down so far in 2025![/quote:16momsfj] The impact the new rule has though is that are clubs really going to want to keep around players for a full season who’ve already agreed to move on before a ball has been kicked? I’d agree with you, he’s good enough to contribute in 2025 so I’d let him see out his contract. Myler hinted in his article last week otherwise though, Wakefield also said the same about the lad who signed for Rovers. It’s up to us to adapt to the new dynamic. The good thing for us is after the Myler article and Wilfs hint on here I looked at the contract list and it was only really Staveley who stood out as someone who we’d potentially lose who we didn’t want too, we’ve seemingly moved quickly to protect everyone else for now with that in mind.