If you read further up the thread, I've said as much myself. However, this did start as a discussion about the BNP and their policies so it's hardly surprising that racism has been central to it.

And I still maintain that you can't vote for or support the BNP without tacitly supporting racism. Their immigration policy amounts to nothing less than ethnic cleansing without the guns. If you want to register a protest vote against the main parties there are plenty of non-racist options to vote for so there really is no excuse.

Indeed, this thread has actually split.

1) Are the BNP racist, YES
2) Do we need a more agressive, but balanced and fair approach to economic migration, immigration and asylum based on the actual needs of our country, and the inherent skills gaps that exist, YES


The BNP will not meet the second requirement, few political parties will as it's a complex issue, and politicians don't do complex.

I mean, what do the Bank of Engalnd do about a shortage of cash.....PRINT MORE. A four year old could have come up with that.

Typically because of the way they define the problem and the solutions they suggest. When someone starts sounding like a BNP pamphlet, intentionally or otherwise, it's going to draw an anti-racist response.

The huge failing of all the main parties has been their reluctance and/or inability to promote a sensible discussion about immigration and clearly lay out the facts. As a result there is a lot of misinformation about that only serves to cause tension and feed the cause of scumbags like the BNP.

However, that doesn't excuse people jumping on the BNP bandwagon when it's clear as day that they are simply racists.

And there are also many who are so paranoid about 'political correctness' that they automatically dismiss certain arguments by lazily applying the term.

Some of the principles now being dismissed as PC nonsense have been central to this country for a hundred years or more. Principles that two World Wars were fought to maintain. Throwing them away would fundamentally change this country and, IMO, make it a place to be a lot less proud of.

Ive just seen the ad at the bottom of the page

Are you asking me?



They aren't mutually exclusive.

Nought to do with Griffen. Its to do with the government making it more lucrutive to be on benefits than to work.

It's amazing that so many people work then, isn't it?

Not strictly true, it's mainly due to the lazy workshy who are not prepared to do the hard work for the pay on offer that means the hotel and leisure industry is mainly staffed by eastern europeans. Without their hard work and influx that part of the industry would collapse.

Also to answer Coddys post with the population of London, he must have spent a reasonsible time researching those figures, shams they are absolutely pointless and prove nothing.

rlThis guy has it about right for me. And just like me he aint a racist.rl

No, he's a washed up old man who sold his socialist credentials years ago

Quite rightly so to. Socialism is dead and has no relevance anymore.

Such respect. It enhances your argument no end. No really.