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| Quote ="Irregs#16"Swapping Sezer for Hastings would be great.
Offload Sao, sign Chris Hill and Mattu English for the pack and then sign a quota centre like Brent Naden.'"
So would tearing up the contracts of Hardaker,Chamberlain Holmes,and Cust.
Starting again with a real plan on how to make this club great again targeting quality players in positions we need rather than fillers who have experience but are unlikely to enhance what is likely to be another season in the bottom three
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| Quote ="bonaire"So would tearing up the contracts of Hardaker,Chamberlain Holmes,and Cust.
Starting again with a real plan on how to make this club great again targeting quality players in positions we need rather than fillers who have experience but are unlikely to enhance what is likely to be another season in the bottom three'"
Which players?
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| And before you start I'm not calling Hardaker, Holmes etc brilliant signings or world class.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Which players?'"
Luckily the club and Myler have the brains to release this would be suicide, can see the argument for Cust as would could sign a player from the NRL (although there is a no guarantee they would be better than Cust), but to get rid of those three and try and replace them now would be crazy.
This is the problem with posters who moan about the signings they can't name players that are better, available and sign for Hull.
Just repeat the same thing over and over again, but offer no alternatives.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Luckily the club and Myler have the brains to release this would be suicide, can see the argument for Cust as would could sign a player from the NRL (although there is a no guarantee they would be better than Cust), but to get rid of those three and try and replace them now would be crazy.
This is the problem with posters who moan about the signings they can't name players that are better, available and sign for Hull.
Just repeat the same thing over and over again, but offer no alternatives.'"
Totally agree...
Myler has stated, the players that we require currently are
primarily experienced, determined attitude and mentality on the field to mentor the youngsters.
Both Myler and Cartwright have had previous experience with these new acquisitions except Abdull & Bourouh.
We've had players previously with more technical ability,but, the problem was questionable attitudes.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Totally agree...
Myler has stated, the players that we require currently are
primarily experienced, determined attitude and mentality on the field to mentor the youngsters.
Both Myler and Cartwright have had previous experience with these new acquisitions except Abdull & Bourouh.
We've had players previously with more technical ability,but, the problem was questionable attitudes.'"
We have had to take some gambles, but the club did try and sign Lam, Whitehaed and Sailor, all turned us down to sign for clubs fighting for the play offs.
Think Myler has had a really tough job, I'm sure he didn't realise how hard it would be to sell the club to players, mess created well before he came. But there are positives
Better players coming in
New coach
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New physio and rumored S&C
Young players coming through
Whilst I'd love us to be fighting for the play offs, at the moment I'd be happy to not be embarrassed on near weekly basis.
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| Quote ="Dave K."We have had to take some gambles, but the club did try and sign Lam, Whitehaed and Sailor, all turned us down to sign for clubs fighting for the play offs.
Think Myler has had a really tough job, I'm sure he didn't realise how hard it would be to sell the club to players, mess created well before he came. But there are positives
Better players coming in
New coach
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New physio and rumored S&C
Young players coming through
Whilst I'd love us to be fighting for the play offs, at the moment I'd be happy to not be embarrassed on near weekly basis.'"
Definitely agree with those positives. Yes, the players we are signing aren't the most exciting but they are better both in ability and, perhaps most importantly, attitude. We've got to turn that around first and foremost. Fight for every point, make sure that we give our opponents a contest every week. Whilst there are other factors at play contributing to our current demise, the mentality issues that plague us is what alarms me the most.
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| ’targeting quality players in positions we need’
Excuse me, but who and where are these players exactly?
Possibly going to Saints, Wigan, Warrigton, Catalan etc.
We’re second from bottom and in a hole and in Hull!
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| Quote ="Blackandwhitebigdog"Sam Royal release from Saints. Would you take him?'"
They wanted him on loan when Myler was first appointed so can see Hull looking at him again.
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| Quote ="Dave K."We have had to take some gambles, but the club did try and sign Lam, Whitehaed and Sailor, all turned us down to sign for clubs fighting for the play offs.
Think Myler has had a really tough job, I'm sure he didn't realise how hard it would be to sell the club to players, mess created well before he came. But there are positives
Better players coming in
New coach
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New physio and rumored S&C
Young players coming through
Whilst I'd love us to be fighting for the play offs, at the moment I'd be happy to not be embarrassed on near weekly basis.'"
If you’re looking at positives with Sezer especially but Adbull and Cust our last tackle plays are going to be miles better. Look at the difference Reynolds made in a few games.
Think by signing those players we’ve boxed ourselves in quota wise though and has prevented us adding a bit of strike that we also badly need. A lot depends on how highly the club rate Moy and Barron as being fully ready, it’s accepted that Rapana will be No1 but I think they’ll give him a go at centre at some point. Moy, Barron, Rapana, Hardaker, Martin backline would have a bit more strike if they could make it work defensively.
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| Quote ="DSJ1983"If you’re looking at positives with Sezer especially but Adbull and Cust our last tackle plays are going to be miles better. Look at the difference Reynolds made in a few games.
Quote Think by signing those players we’ve boxed ourselves in quota wise though and has prevented us adding a bit of strike that we also badly need.'" A lot depends on how highly the club rate Moy and Barron as being fully ready, it’s accepted that Rapana will be No1 but I think they’ll give him a go at centre at some point. Moy, Barron, Rapana, Hardaker, Martin backline would have a bit more strike if they could make it work defensively.'"
Agree Rapana and Sezer wouldn't have been bad signings in isolation but they aren't what we need either.
Rapana will bring experience and a never say die attitude which hopefully will rub off on the rest but he's a winger who converted to full back this season. As for a centre he's only played a handful of games there in as 16 year career. At his age it's not likely to happen. He's also 35 on a marquee wage. Keeping Walker and signing a specialist centre would have been much better use of a quota place.
Sezer has had a good season in a very poor team but is not what we need.
Cust is baffling full stop.
After the excitement when the new investment was announced I'm underwhelmed by the squad that's been put together. Some of the fed signings I can accept but the quota signings apart from Asiata are strange to say the least.
We can analyse the merits of all these signing infinitum but we've got to trust Cartwight and Myler's judgement.
One things for sure it's going to be interesting.
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| Quote ="Blackandwhitebigdog"Sam Royal release from Saints. Would you take him?'"
He's on the small side and no better than what we've got.
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| If Rapana and Seizer are good enough to start and play well in the NRL, I'm pretty sure they will be good enough for a team who has won 3 games and been hammered on multiple occasions.
I quite like Walker, but is a bit injury prone.
If we can release Sao, sign a couple of forwards and a quota centre I'll feel alot more confident about next year.
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| Jordan Rapana is a quite signifcant upgrade on Walker and im personally surpsied more people dont think this.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Jordan Rapana is a quite signifcant upgrade on Walker and im personally surpsied more people dont think this.'"
Rapanas stats this year in the NRL are really good. And that league is a cut above SL.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Jordan Rapana is a quite signifcant upgrade on Walker and im personally surpsied more people dont think this.'"
Have you not met our fanbase?
We could sign a team of NRL superstars and some would still find fault.
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| Maybe there isn't a centre available of high quality, would we be better with Naden or Rapana.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If Rapana and Seizer are good enough to start and play well in the NRL, I'm pretty sure they will be good enough for a team who has won 3 games and been hammered on multiple occasions.
I quite like Walker, but is a bit injury prone.
If we can release Sao, sign a couple of forwards and a quota centre I'll feel alot more confident about next year.'"
I agree that both will bring quality to a terrible team but we could have used the precious quota places more wisely.
Keeping Walker would have given us more options. He's injury prone but we cover at fullback.
I'm unsure about Sao. On his day he's very good but this season in particular he's been a liability more often than not. We need a couple of forwards if he were to leave but replacing him with the same quality fed player will be difficult. A better quality quota prop may be the only option. If he stays maybe Cartwright will hopefully sort out his discipline. Long shot I know.
Off the field we are getting things right with the coaching and back room team hopefully this will translate to on field performances.
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| Quote ="HU8HFC"Jordan Rapana is a quite signifcant upgrade on Walker and im personally surpsied more people dont think this.'"
I agree there's no doubting that but Walker is a good player and we could have signed a centre. We were linked with Lafai and Leutele was an option. It's all about balancing the squad to accommodate better quality quota players. I'm not sure we've done that signing Rapana.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If Rapana and Seizer are good enough to start and play well in the NRL, I'm pretty sure they will be good enough for a team who has won 3 games and been hammered on multiple occasions.
I quite like Walker, but is a bit injury prone.
If we can release Sao, sign a couple of forwards and a quota centre I'll feel alot more confident about next year.'"
Spot on Dave. Rapana is pure quality and a winner. Him and Asiata are massive signings.
On Cust, John Cartwright wanted him so that's good enough for me.
He was quality at Wigan before his injury and he's had some good games for Salford this season.
He also comes with a first class attitude and is a true professional.
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| Quote ="Dave K."If Rapana and Seizer are good enough to start and play well in the NRL, I'm pretty sure they will be good enough for a team who has won 3 games and been hammered on multiple occasions.
I quite like Walker, but is a bit injury prone.
If we can release Sao, sign a couple of forwards and a quota centre I'll feel alot more confident about next year.'"
Spot on Dave. Rapana is pure quality and a winner. Him and Asiata are massive signings.
On Cust, John Cartwright wanted him so that's good enough for me.
He was quality at Wigan before his injury and he's had some good games for Salford this season.
He also comes with a first class attitude and is a true professional.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"
We can analyse the merits of all these signing infinitum but we've got to trust Cartwight and Myler's judgement.
One things for sure it's going to be interesting.'"
Asiata playing under him at the Cowboys might be a pure coincidence as I’m sure he was announced way before Cartwright was even mentioned, but all our quota signings Cartwright has coached, apart from Jed Cartwright but he obviously knows his character well.
It’s an obvious strategy that they’ve gone for players he trusts maybe at the expense of other players who look more suited on paper. It’s maybe a risk and I’m not sure it’s the best way but they’ve obviously backed the coach in wanting to bring in certain characters, people have moaned about player character long enough hopefully pays off.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Wonder if we are in for Tristan Powell with trying to offload Sao?'"
I'd hope to use our last quota spot on a more experienced prop.
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