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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.'"
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.'"
Surely Hull FC and Adam Pearson will not do this .
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| Quote: The Reason "Surely Hull FC and Adam Pearson will not do this .'"
Go on.
Tell us about Kelly's wife?
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| Quote: Dave K. "Will have to agree to disagree, rugby players have done a lot worst and not been sacked. I'd say the same if he was a Rovers or Cas player, massive overreaction from some people.'"
Perhaps so.
I’m pretty hard-line on player conduct. They don’t just represent their club, but the game as a whole. I don’t want people thinking RL players go around getting -faced, calling women sluts and whores and threatening to assault them.
I feel we have to take a hard-line against such behaviour.
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| Quote: Hasbag "icon_lol.gif
Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.
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| Only just noticed on second viewing that a Police officer walks past at the end of the video, surely if the staff felt so threatened theyd have shouted him over, instead of just videoing for social media?
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| Taken off VT
He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.
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| Quote: The Reason "Taken off VT
He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.'"
That’s my post on the VT.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.'"
Ignoring that fact that you don’t know what was said/done before the video clip, of course.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Albert Kelly has called a woman a slut and a whore purely based on the fact she’s a woman. He’s then threatened to assault her.
If the club do nothing, they are saying this behaviour is acceptable.'"
Do nothing or sack him, they are two very different things?
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "That’s my post on the VT.'"
Seeing as he's your new bezzy mate could you ask him what he was implying about Albert's wife?
He's being a little diversionary when I ask.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Try again. I said he was an idiot and there should be consequences.
Separately you said our fans as a collective were fickle for defending him. I said if they were defending him that made them loyal not fickle.
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You never you said ..Surely we are the most faithful we loved him before and are sort of defending him now “
Therefore you condone what he did cockle . Verbally abusing a young girl .
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.'"
No point us sacking him as I don't think you have the cap space
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| Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:15 pm
Mrs Barista wrote:
He's an idiot off the pitch and there should be consequences.
Quote: Mrs Baritsa "Surely we are the most faithful we loved him before and are sort of defending him now “
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| Jesus don't think I've ever seen so much sock filling.
He's been a bell end and if the footage is genuine (as in fairly recent) then no doubt he will be dealt with internally by the club. This will be no different to how any other club would deal with it.
As for Hull FC fans being accused of condoning Kelly I've not read anyone condoning his behaviour whatsoever all say pretty much the same in disapproving his behaviour. Shame the sad sock filling brigade can't grasp this instead of trying to be the moral compass of RL!!!
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