Whiting (possibly)
Manu
Turner
Radford
Tickle
Fitzgibbon
Lauaki
Westerman
Washbrook

9 out of the 17 back rowers, say's it all.

Are you finally seeing the light?

The one thing that was keeping me was the continuity effect, that after minimal player changes in personell (in key positions) we would see a more cohesive unit. Unfortunately, i was wrong. I still think it's too early to completely panic, but it doesn't look good.

Fair play for admitting it.

1 less p1ss artist at Cas, a top earner off ours books and over £100K in our back pockets for an extremely average player.

Good piece of business

I think at Cas he might have been a big fish in a small pond, which is why he shone so much in his first few years.

Just utilise him in the right way and he'll produce the goods, hopefully.

Not seen anything to suggest he's anything more than average so far, I hope to god I'm wrong! I also thought Tickle was nothing tonight, I'm fed up of watching us perform so badly!

Makes me cringe seeing him wearing the 11 shirt and Fitzgibbon, a 2nd row/prop all his career, wearing the 13. It's the same situation as when Crocker, a natural second row, signed and was given the 13 in place of Washbrook, who to me looks a natural 13. Obviously they have only been given those shirts and used in that position because they are Aussies and more 'prestigious' players.

Numbers mean nothing in todays game IMO

Youve got a decent player, who will prolly shine every now and again.

The Westerman hype ended 2 years ago......

Westerman is a player that stood out as a player coming through and took his chance well once selected for super league. But for me he is now a player that has settled down and found his level and he is no longer that exiting prospect from previous seasons. Hull spent big money on the exiting prospect and overlooked the player that he now is. An average super league player that has been great for the Castleford coffers.

The players that stood out for me tonight was ogre, fitzy and brisco the rest were below average, don't think that manu is a centre, long was long and isnt intersted imo, they just didn't have any direction.

1st half very quiet,2nd half with Sean Long missing i thought Westerman got a little bit more involved.I think he will do alright given the chance.