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| Quote The Dentist Wilf="The Dentist Wilf"I just wonder if the RL will be as quick to offer £700,000 to Wakey a club that has battled for years to bail them out as they did so readily to Crusaders who have been bust thre times in two years.'"
I do hope they do help them Wilf
Rugby league as a whole should do everything it can to help both clubs survive, what really makes me sick to the gut is the keyboard warriors who shout "bin them or kick em out" what about the families who depend on these two clubs , the backroom staff, down to those who sweep the terraces whom all depend i am sure on the cash they get from these two very old time honured clubs AND backbones of super league, not every club can be a Saints or a Wigan due to revenue but these old clubs and their fans should be paid much more respect that to idiotically say "kick em out" as some have done....
Usually the same people who shout "hes crap get him off" sell him or bin him"
I for one hope for the community en large that wakefield come through and get the help they deserve alas i fear the forked tounge of red hall will stitch someone up somewhere to enable them to save face over the welsh and london efforts whom in reality have not and will not contribute to RL in my opinion as Wakey and Cas have over the years....
Think of the lasting damage to RL in general if we allowed Wakefield to fold... the term pack of cards springs to mind
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"I do hope they do help them Wilf
Rugby league as a whole should do everything it can to help both clubs survive, what really makes me sick to the gut is the keyboard warriors who shout "bin them or kick em out" what about the families who depend on these two clubs , the backroom staff, down to those who sweep the terraces whom all depend i am sure on the cash they get from these two very old time honured clubs AND backbones of super league, not every club can be a Saints or a Wigan due to revenue but these old clubs and their fans should be paid much more respect that to idiotically say "kick em out" as some have done....
Usually the same people who shout "hes crap get him off" sell him or bin him"
I for one hope for the community en large that wakefield come through and get the help they deserve alas i fear the forked tounge of red hall will stitch someone up somewhere to enable them to save face over the welsh and london efforts whom in reality have not and will not contribute to RL in my opinion as Wakey and Cas have over the years....
Think of the lasting damage to RL in general if we allowed Wakefield to fold... the term pack of cards springs to mind'"
It isn't the RFL's issue to keep people in jobs, sorry, but Wakefield is a failing (failed) business, it's as simple as that.
The utopian view of life that some hold is laudable, if totally unrealistic.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"It isn't the RFL's issue to keep people in jobs, sorry, but Wakefield is a failing (failed) business, it's as simple as that.
The utopian view of life that some hold is laudable, if totally unrealistic.'"
however the cash injections into other failing clubs seems to contradict your comment.
My point is that Rugby League is a sport built on family traditions and community clubs so in fact the welfare of those clubs and communities is very much important to many throughout RL but in your case obviously not all!!
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"I do hope they do help them Wilf
Rugby league as a whole should do everything it can to help both clubs survive, what really makes me sick to the gut is the keyboard warriors who shout "bin them or kick em out" what about the families who depend on these two clubs , the backroom staff, down to those who sweep the terraces whom all depend i am sure on the cash they get from these two very old time honured clubs AND backbones of super league, not every club can be a Saints or a Wigan due to revenue but these old clubs and their fans should be paid much more respect that to idiotically say "kick em out" as some have done....
Usually the same people who shout "hes crap get him off" sell him or bin him"
I for one hope for the community en large that wakefield come through and get the help they deserve alas i fear the forked tounge of red hall will stitch someone up somewhere to enable them to save face over the welsh and london efforts whom in reality have not and will not contribute to RL in my opinion as Wakey and Cas have over the years....
Think of the lasting damage to RL in general if we allowed Wakefield to fold... the term pack of cards springs to mind'"
 well said agree 100%
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"however the cash injections into other failing clubs seems to contradict your comment.
My point is that Rugby League is a sport built on family traditions and community clubs so in fact the welfare of those clubs and communities is very much important to many throughout RL but in your case obviously not all!!'"
RFL is not, the last time I looked, a charity. The reason we've not really expanded is down to pit village politics and infighting, open your curtains, it's 2011 out there.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"RFL is not, the last time I looked, a charity. The reason we've not really expanded is down to pit village politics and infighting, open your curtains, it's 2011 out there.'"
I have travelled the world extensively , been to watch fottie in almost every country it has been played in and i can tell you this , the majority of RL people do not see the game as a charity but more of a passion ... as do those people who live in Wakefield .
Your statement of rugby leagues problems being borne from pit village mentality is at best an insult to everyone who watches the game in my opinion because without those pit villages and breadline living supporters there would be no RL at all.
That comment is something i would have expected from twickenham and the likes.. are you sure your a RL fan Standee, you do realise dont you the roots of our game dont you??
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"I have travelled the world extensively , been to watch fottie in almost every country it has been played in and i can tell you this , the majority of RL people do not see the game as a charity but more of a passion ... as do those people who live in Wakefield .
Your statement of rugby leagues problems being borne from pit village mentality is at best an insult to everyone who watches the game in my opinion because without those pit villages and breadline living supporters there would be no RL at all.
That comment is something i would have expected from twickenham and the likes.. are you sure your a RL fan Standee, you do realise dont you the roots of our game dont you??'"
Yes, and I also understand that we're not living in the 50's anymore.
where did I say "pit village mentality", I said "pit village politics", if you can't differentiate between the two then that is your problem.
And the fact you have "travelled the world extensively" means what precisely? nothing, that is what.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"It isn't the RFL's issue to keep people in jobs, sorry, but Wakefield is a failing (failed) business, it's as simple as that.
The utopian view of life that some hold is laudable, if totally unrealistic.'"
Wakefield has a failing (failed) management, don't confuse them with Wakefield Trinity and Rugby League as a whole in Wakefield.
There is a real possibility that Rugby League at a professional level will cease to be played in the city and the fallout from that won't be seen immediately it will be measured in 10 or 15 years time when the number of amateur clubs has fallen and therefore the number of junors produced.
Don't kid yourselves that Leeds, Huddersfield or even Cas will pick up the slack because it will not happen, without a club to watch, a community programme, a schools programme etc.. the next generation of young sportsmen will not be into RL but something else. That in turn has a knock down effect on spectator numbers for the wider game and son and so on...
The Wakefield area, inc Cas & Fev produces a great number of juniors and RL can ill afford to sacrifice one let alone two, like the Brazilian Rainforest when its gone, ITS GONE and try as you might, wish all you want you can't get it back.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Yes, and I also understand that we're not living in the 50's anymore.
where did I say "pit village mentality", I said "pit village politics", if you can't differentiate between the two then that is your problem.
And the fact you have "travelled the world extensively" means what precisely? nothing, that is what.'"
hold on i will get your dummy for you
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| Quote EXPRO="EXPRO"hold on i will get your dummy for you'"
I see you're back to insults when you can't continue reasoned debate, a shame, you had been doing well.
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| Quote The Clan="The Clan"Wakefield has a failing (failed) management, don't confuse them with Wakefield Trinity and Rugby League as a whole in Wakefield.
There is a real possibility that Rugby League at a professional level will cease to be played in the city and the fallout from that won't be seen immediately it will be measured in 10 or 15 years time when the number of amateur clubs has fallen and therefore the number of junors produced.
Don't kid yourselves that Leeds, Huddersfield or even Cas will pick up the slack because it will not happen, without a club to watch, a community programme, a schools programme etc.. the next generation of young sportsmen will not be into RL but something else. That in turn has a knock down effect on spectator numbers for the wider game and son and so on...
The Wakefield area, inc Cas & Fev produces a great number of juniors and RL can ill afford to sacrifice one let alone two, like the Brazilian Rainforest when its gone, ITS GONE and try as you might, wish all you want you can't get it back.'"
Unfortunately i think you are right pal! although i can tell you it saddens me to the core to see any RL business go out of business and lets hope that the powers that hold court over these things move quickly to help and even if needed offer interim financial help because as you say in much better terms than i could muster the community needs the club as much as the fans do and RLs future young stars in these areas young and unborn as yet need these clubs as aspiration flags to grow into.
lets hope were both wrong
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I see you're back to insults when you can't continue reasoned debate, a shame, you had been doing well.'"
first insukt came from you in your last E Mail when you stated"
And the fact you have "travelled the world extensively" means what precisely? nothing, that is what." up until then i had not insulted anyone however you can change it however you wish i care not as in my opinion the manner in which you try to look down on others and your comments towards "pit villages" stinks as all who read this thread will see
leave it there now , any insults are yours alone to throw and started by you today and noted by all!!
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