i was in the players lounge after the game (my lad was mascot at the game) and Thorman was chatting to a few of the giants players. It was clear from his body language that he is completley lacking any self confidence and belief. TBF the giants players seemed to be doing their best to lift his spirits and encourage him. The vast majority of Hull players in there were very glum and down as i would have expected after a performance like last night so they do at least appear to care.

As a player, I dont rate Thorman personaly,but as a human being you have to feel sorry for him,imagine how you would feel in the same position?

totally agree spot on for me

Agar is a human being isn't he ? Gets pilloried on here every minute. Has a family too I believe.

But he can resign and be done with it.

correct

and just to add to that,do people realy know how hes feeling right now?

But he wont do that.

I kind of agree he doesnt deserve all the flak as other players have performed just as bad as him this season yet he gets it rather than them.

But TBF the flak what he does get is nothing compared to what football players/managers/referees get some get death threats etc so it shouldnt affect him too much as i imagine it wont be anywhere near that scale

So that allows open season on him does it but players are exempt ? FWIW I think pro Coaches and Players should be open to scrutiny with regard to their professional performance. That would include Thorman and Agar.

But this is about thorman and rugby, not football

Have to agree,but unfortunatly being a coach /manager puts you in the direct firing line.I don`t know Agar personaly,he seems a nice bloke,but when we pay good money,and are not getting the goods I feel we have a right to complain.

I agree too but the same can be applied to Thorman. Players and coaches alike for me.