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Quote: miketomo "i apologise if that offends people who have not played the game. it was not ment in that manner. its just im of the belief that if you have played alot you do see things whilst watching a game that others do not. Im just getting very frustrated with all the negative posts.'"


Having played the game myself, I don't know what games you have been watching as there is little to see that gives me hope TBH.
Whether anyone has played or not it is not difficult to see the problems and to address them however this doesn't seem to be happening at all. The same mistakes are being made over and over again, little if anything has changed to our tactics/game plans etc. We are still inept at running any sort of angles (apart from Tickle), support play is still poor. Yes I know Agar hasn't his own players, we have injuries etc but these are simple basic skills (along with others) in rugby that our professional club just hasn't grasped.

I see very little to be positive about at this stage apart from the fact that the club still has a great army of fans who love their club, just a pity that the ones employed do not show a little more desire and commitment.

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So, following the logic, if you haven't actually done a job yourself then you are not qualified to talk about somenoe else's ability/efficacy in doing so.

Hmm, if you say so.

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Quote: Uffa1964 "Sadly we no longer seem to have any "secret things" happening in our game !'"


Can't argue with that. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Standee "So, following the logic, if you haven't actually done a job yourself then you are not qualified to talk about somenoe else's ability/efficacy in doing so.

Hmm, if you say so.'"


i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while. icon_razz.gif

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Quote: miketomo "i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while.
I don't need to have done the job to see that it's being done pi55 poorly at Hull at the moment.

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Quote: Chris71 "Having played the game myself, I don't know what games you have been watching as there is little to see that gives me hope TBH.
Whether anyone has played or not it is not difficult to see the problems and to address them however this doesn't seem to be happening at all. The same mistakes are being made over and over again, little if anything has changed to our tactics/game plans etc. We are still inept at running any sort of angles (apart from Tickle), support play is still poor. Yes I know Agar hasn't his own players, we have injuries etc but these are simple basic skills (along with others) in rugby that our professional club just hasn't grasped.

I see very little to be positive about at this stage apart from the fact that the club still has a great army of fans who love their club, just a pity that the ones employed do not show a little more desire and commitment.'"


postives from this year
support has stayed strong(in numbers anyway) from fans even with the whole friday night debate, credit crunch and the poor performances.

in my view tommy lee, danny houghton and mike burnett all good young local players have further established themselves.

Richard whiting and Richard horne have both returned from serious injury problems last year.

Calderwood has played better then many thought and upto his injury had a good season.

Sam moa is having a real go and is getting better each week.

the recruitment for next year looks alot better then the previous years.

in my view there are still positives to take out of this year.

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Quote: miketomo "in my view there are still positives to take out of this year.'"


And that is fine, but what about:

1)Poor discipline on the field
2) Poor discipline on the field
3) Poor tactics during the game
4) Having to substitute our number 7 on multiple occasions because he was so poor
5) Poor interchange policy

There are as many negatives to take forward as well, which is one of the biggest concerns I have.

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Quote: miketomo "i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while.
Played Super League have you?

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i am not saying there are no negatives and yes thats whats message boards are for. Onething i totally agree on is the number 7 issue but we have all had our say on that one. i just feel sometimes where all to quick to only point out the negatives.

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Quote: Robbo4 "Played Super League have you?'"


i did not realise super league rugby was a sport on its own.

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Quote: miketomo "i did not realise super league rugby was a sport on its own.'"
No but to comment on it with any insight you must have played to that standard? Or does throwing a rugby ball around at the park qualify?

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Quote: miketomo "i did not say that. it the same as most things in life. every body is entitled to an opinion but at the same time you would trust some one whos has actually done the job themselves to have more educated one. Well atleast i have you all complaing at me and not the club or coach for a short while.
The dangerous thing there is that the logic leads to things like taking George W Bush's advice on how to run a country.

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Quote: Robbo4 "No but to comment on it with any insight you must have played to that standard? Or does throwing a rugby ball around at the park qualify?'"


i have played at a decent standard thank you.

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The coaches have to go, senior players have to be dropped (obviously only those who arent playing well enough) as well as those seriously under performing. The likes of Hall, Maloney and Whiting need to be giving the chance again to start because Thorman and G.Horne are playing terrible and can be replaced. Players like King, Thackray, Radford and Tickle just arent good enough compared to what we will have in the pack, they cant really be replaced at the moment due to injuries in the pack although one can go for Maloney.
If Agar or Sharp is head coach next year, and big changes are not made with regards to under performing players, then this will be one season pass holder the club will lose. I've been loyal in my spell as a supporter, by the end of this year I will have spent over a grand following the club in 4 different countries, London and to the games such as Dewsbury away in the snow. I've spent thousands following the club since I first starting going regularly at the Boulevard in 2002. But I have bigger priorities now with a wedding to pay for and my final year of a degree, and I cannot jusitfy using that amount of time and that amount of money following a club where most people within it do not care enough, from top to bottom

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