why are people bringing hkr into it?

tbf i can see where gg is coming from, if crocker and lauaki get here we'll have 8 overseas players in the squad.

imo thats to many and hopefully we'll stay inside the rfl restirctions for 2010 and beyond but agar has to assemble the best squad he can and within the rules but if the rfl keep changing the rules what can he do?

he cant take the moral high road because it will cost him his job.

We'll see come derby day

That's still arguable really, and this is what amazes me. In terms of attitude he's definitely streets ahead. However, if we're basing how much playing promise he has on such a small window of game time as we've seen, how about we compare it to a similar-sized example of Maiava, say the Saints and Wigan games?

Why, thank you. I have to admit that's puzzling me as well. Maybe he's taking longer to adapt than anyone thought?

I agree with your general point, but I would also add that Moa looks a whole lot fitter than Hutch did when he came over. That coupled with his size and attitude leads me to think he will be better.

Not a difficult target to aim at, mind.

His popularity with the crowd isn't really that difficult to fathom. He's big, puts in some big hits, has a good attitude, and has an 'amusing' name. He was bound to be a crowd pleaser if he turned in even half-decent performances.

Didn't it get reported that he was ripping it up during the off season??? I seem to remember comments from both Agar and Radders.

Totally agree, there was an element of sarcasm in my post. He does look to have good potential, I just despair at the fact many seem incapable of distinguishing between 'potential' and 'finished article' and seemingly considering him ready enough to retain his place. His fitness is possibly higher than Maiava's was, but then again we at least got 2 spells from him. And again, why was Maiava's fitness a source of major criticism yet Moa's isn't even enough to consider his inclusion questionable?

I trust my judgement on things like this and dont count it as a snap judgement. The guy is obviously not fit but he has shown enough in the 2 games he has played to justify for me his signing and the opportunity he is getting.

I actually find the culture of constant negativity by some fans frankly laughable too!