Not that there's any firm rumours he's leaving but I'd be happy to keep Sao. He's infuriating at times but as you say he's a good player and hopefully Cartwright will instil some discipline in him AND the rest of the team.

Hill is an option but will likely be going to Leigh but I'd have him for a season. He's had a decent year has been called up for England so he's still got something to offer and there's little out there available.

We are also short of a centre. Haven't got a clue who we can get.

I really don't understand why we are not retaining Jack Walker for next season.

Is it more down to him not wanting to be here though?

Who the hell would after this humiliating season? Think the club may well struggle to give season passes away for next season.

The pack next year is pretty much going to be the one which rolled over and let leeds score at will last night. Anyone who thinks adding holmes and asiata to that is going to be much better is deluded

Lol Sao is good on his day ffs.

His last good day was beyond memory.

As much as I like Davey Litten and the enthusiasm he brings, he’s not the answer, we have allowed a much better option to leave.

I’d remove Grix immediately and let Frannie Cummins take over, this season has been testing to say the least, good riddance to it.

God bless Bev French

Who's the better option we've let leave?

2 actually - Cam Scott & Liam Sutcliffe.

We started this year with Carlos as well as starters.

Next year we have Hardaker, Chamberlain & Litten - does anybody think that is an upgrade ??

Hooker is exactly the same - Brown, Houghton, Smith, Balmforth replaced by Borough, Balmforth & maybe Cust - if fit & not needed in the halves ??

Problem is Scott, Carlos and Sutcliffe don't offer value for money, all aren't good enough to justify keeping for the amount of games they play. Not saying Litten is the answer, and very concerned about our centres, which is pretty weak, but not sure keeping any of those three was the answer. Sutcliffe and Carlos were on big money, could make an argument for Scott.

Were knackered, we need a quality nine, we have no go forward.
unfortunately the two young replacements will be found out, and Cust is a manufactured hooker, with obvious problems regarding even playing.

Herman outstanding, carrying us, he needs an out and out prop to partner him, another second row to partner Cartwright, and Holmes, with Asiata at the back, Ashworth and Lane good bench options as is Yusuf, whatever halves we do or don’t sign, without the engine room we will continue to go backwards.

I believe we will be better next year, and am pleased Myler has changed as much was possible in in one go.
I also understand some players will work out and others not.

But the fundamentals have never changed, 1, 6, 7, 9, 13, get that right you won’t go far wrong.

Lol read above.

Amir Bourouh is the big unknown next year. I think he'll be the starting nine. Could be a star, could be a dud.

Really hope so, he made a scintillating break after coming on against us, but concern about his game time also, we’re in a right mess and all real fans have heads in their hands, unbelievable drop into obscurity.

If he were going to be a star next season salford would be playing him whether he was leaving or not

Hopefully not another Morgan Smith. No offence to Smith.