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| Quote: Mrs Barista "He's an idiot off the pitch and there should be consequences.'"
Quote: Mrs Barista "Surely we are the most faithful we loved him before and are sort of defending him now “
So which one is it ??
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Try again. I said he was an idiot and there should be consequences.
Separately you said our fans as a collective were fickle for defending him. I said if they were defending him that made them loyal not fickle.
So Mr Reason, Justin's Carney of racist comment guilt. A signing to be applauded or condemned? Not available this weekend I know but which is it?'"
The majority of the F.C. forum turned against you , “club apologist “was mentioned .... did you seriously receive a free season pass from the club at any time?
Your up the clubs arris big time ..... . It to condone Kelly’s actions as a female supporter ...
What action do you feel the club should take , What would you do if you were Adam Pearson regarding what Kelly has done ? |
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I’m not sure how anyone can defend him.
He’s called a woman a slut, a whore and threatened to assault her.
Whether he is sober, tanked up on booze or high on class A is irrelevant. The issue is his abusive and threatening behaviour.
Radford had talked a lot about culture, standards off the field and the professional expectations he has of his players. Kelly has put him in a position where he either has to act and release his best player, or undermine everything he has said in recent weeks.
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| Quote: The Reason "The majority of the F.C. forum turned against you , “club apologist “was mentioned .... did you seriously receive a free season pass from the club at any time?
Your up the clubs arris big time ..... . It to condone Kelly’s actions as a female supporter ...
What action do you feel the club should take , What would you do if you were Adam Pearson regarding what Kelly has done ?'"
Answer the question please  |
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I’m not sure how anyone can defend him.
He’s called a woman a slut, a whore and threatened to assault her.
Whether he is sober, tanked up on booze or high on class A is irrelevant. The issue is his abusive and threatening behaviour.
Radford had talked a lot about culture, standards off the field and the professional expectations he has of his players. Kelly has put him in a position where he either has to act and release his best player, or undermine everything he has said in recent weeks.'"
Good post . The fans are backing him . Let’s see if Redford & Pearson really respect the culture and values at the club . Or Can Alibi Albey . do as he wants like Liam Watts alluded to ........ |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Answer the question please ![]()
Diversion doesn’t work with me .....sad.
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| Quote: The Reason "Diversion doesn’t work with me .....sad.'"
You're unable to answer a question on double standards. Brilliant A giver but not a taker apparently |
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| Quote: The Reason "Diversion doesn’t work with me .....sad.'"
time this troll was buried under his brdge. The AUP seems to be forgotten |
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| Quote: The Reason "Good post . The fans are backing him . Let’s see if Redford & Pearson really respect the culture and values at the club . Or Can Alibi Albey . do as he wants like Liam Watts alluded to ........'"
I see a lot of Hull fans stating categorically Kelly is in the wrong.
Admittedly not as in the wrong for testing positive to a class A substance, but he needs a telling off.
Btw, you are the worst troll since cabman. |
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "I’m not sure how anyone can defend him.
He’s called a woman a slut, a whore and threatened to assault her.
Whether he is sober, tanked up on booze or high on class A is irrelevant. The issue is his abusive and threatening behaviour.
Radford had talked a lot about culture, standards off the field and the professional expectations he has of his players. Kelly has put him in a position where he either has to act and release his best player, or undermine everything he has said in recent weeks.'"
You really think he should be sacked for this? The culture thing is on the pitch and whilst at the club. He deserved to be told off, but there is no way he should be sacked.
If he behaviour continues, fair enough, but after this one incident, there is no way he should be sacked.
I expect the club to release a statement tomorrow saying Kelly has been internally disciplined and him to play in France next week. |
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| Quote: Dave K. "You really think he should be sacked for this? The culture thing is on the pitch and whilst at the club. He deserved to be told off, but there is no way he should be sacked.
If he behaviour continues, fair enough, but after this one incident, there is no way he should be sacked.
I expect the club to release a statement tomorrow saying Kelly has been internally disciplined and him to play in France next week.'"
Agree with the above. |
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| Quote: Dave K. "You really think he should be sacked for this? The culture thing is on the pitch and whilst at the club. He deserved to be told off, but there is no way he should be sacked.
If he behaviour continues, fair enough, but after this one incident, there is no way he should be sacked.
I expect the club to release a statement tomorrow saying Kelly has been internally disciplined and him to play in France next week.'"
Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women. |
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| Quote: The Reason "Diversion doesn’t work with me .....sad.'"
Your Q on the VT.
[i"Has anyone seen Kelly's wife?"[/i
Are you going to elaborate further for us? |
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Absolutely.
Not for getting off his face, but for calling someone a slut, a whore and threatening to assault them.
If he’s allowed to continue at the club they are condoning the abuse and intimidation of women.'"
Will have to agree to disagree, rugby players have done a lot worst and not been sacked. I'd say the same if he was a Rovers or Cas player, massive overreaction from some people. |
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| Quote: Mrs Barista " To summarise
I was surprised at the initial reaction. I thought there’d be a wider range, based on previous experience. While, as has been pointed out a few times, this isn’t the worst thing ever, it still belongs somewhere on the spectrum of bad things.
Carney served an 8 match ban for racially abusing an opponent, which seems broadly proportionate for such a serious offence. Salford released him a couple of weeks later and he served out the rest of the ban with Rovers. He behaved badly, was punished and then resumed his career.
From what we’ve seen, it looks to me that Kelly has behaved badly, should probably be punished and can then get on with things. Like anybody, he deserves a chance to explain himself to his employer. In any case, the circumstances are different to Carney’s situation and any punishment should reflect that. As far as i’m aware, sexist abuse is not covered by the same legislation as racist abuse, so there’s an arguable case for it being viewed less seriously, and also it didn’t happen in a game so the responsibility falls to the club rather than the RFL. Without significant mitigation, to me a proportionate response would be something like a fine, a warning, an apology and, possibly, get him to attend a relevant course - alcohol awareness, anger management or similar. I disagree with those who believe that a quiet word from Radford would, by itself, be sufficient or send the right signal and those who think that it’s not even really worthy of attention. That some are offering joking validation is somewhat dismaying. I know ribaldry is part of our tradition, and there’s undoubtedly a comedic element to his behaviour - but in a laugh at rather than laugh with way.
Anyway, I shall say no more about it here. I even promise.
On the drug dealer thing, obviously with everything that comes with it in current circumstances it is both very serious and different to use, especially given the involvement of organised crime groups. However, if the trade was regulated, rather than illegal, like that for some other potentially harmful things, such as alcohol, tobacco, and (more relevantly to the US) firearms, i’d regard the trade as somewhere in amongst those. One for the Sin Bin, innit? I don’t think UK gun laws should be relaxed, btw.
Quote: Mrs Barista "And also a bit shoulder shruggy about acknowledged instances casual misogyny.'"
I’m sorry if that is how you feel. Thank you though for assuaging my guilt, and sparing me any further self-flaggelation. It’s a weight off.
Have a nice evening.
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