Give it a rest. Please explain what "have the measure of the referee" actually equates to. Complete clichéd clap trap. Both teams pinched a yard on a generous 10 all night.

I can see why people like Carlos at 6, but for me him and snyed are not gelling together. It's early days I know, but we are heading into a vital period of the season and on that 1st half we won't win anything. At times they wasn't on the same page and our attack ended up painfully slow and broke down. What carlos does have is what Pryce had years ago which is pace to cut through a gap if play stops.were trying to go wide far to early without getting momentum going in the forwards. Pryce has better managment of the forwards and will inject himself into the game when gaps appear. For me pryce comes back in next week for the experience as we can't start that sloppy again. Carlos to the bench I actually like the idea of. The pace and elusiveness could be the difference late on. Experimenting with key positions at this stage is dangerous

I am 1 of the couple of thousand who has gone missing.I bought my pass but have not been since Easter Monday as I have personal problems to sort out which far outweigh the rugby.People have other reasons not to attend so until you know the facts why,you can't really comment

But a much more dominant 2nd half and yeamos defence is incredible. Bridge had no chance all night. Took his try well, and Taylor just keeps getting better, then ellis entered and took us up another level. He's a machine

I hope you get it sorted mate and get to a few games, you are a big Hull fan and like me have seen plenty of bad times and deserve to enjoy the good times.

Completely agree with that!

Nice to see you back on here pal. At least your team may make you smile nowadays, all the best.

Thanks Dave,I would have been loving this season but I have more important things to sort out right now so be doubtful if I attend again this season.I think people are getting ahead of themselves a bit as we may have hit form at wrong time and I can see us struggle in the super 8s....just my opinion as someone looking in.

Of course some will have personal issues & commitments and financial reasons for not attending, but there are still many that have drifted away from the club out of frustration or boredom that the club needs to get back for it to be profitable and grow.

I think if we continue this form, don't even have to win something, we should start to see some supporters come back, why wouldn't you want to watch a winning team playing found rugby.

6 home games left I'd be looking at doing a mini season pass.

Agreed, many only see the referee as a 14th opponent. This is simply not the case.

We were potentially the makers of our own downfall in the first half. On 3 occasions by forcing the pass or having a miracle cut out pass we knocked on within their 20 with tackles to spare. The needs to be converted into points on the board. When our players play the perfect error free game, only then can we look at the refs performance.

That said Spegs, if you want an example of a player who has the measure of the officials as a group, check out Mahe Fonua. He gets a penalty in virtually every game for quick play the balls before the tackler has had a chance to move away from the ruck.

Regarding the gate. It was a bit disappointing to see a thousand less people there from the st game.

Bit of a mixed bag for me last night. We struggled to get a quick PTB all night which stopped us playing our natural game. I expect wire to be even better than this next week so we really need to up our game if we're to be in with a shout.

I thought we gave widnes too many easy yards all night but was pleased that our defence was much tighter out wide.

tuimavave not really looking convincing at 6 IMO and our attack was way off where it has been. We looked slow and ponderous again which was partly due to the slow PTB but also that sneyd and carlos just aren't working well together as a partnership yet. We really failed to create much all night and the only try where we really created a gap in their defence was the bowden one. Like I say, we need to be much better next week as wire's defence is a cut above widnes'

Good to get the 2 points but we need to start finding some consitency and being dominant in games for 60 minutes plus rather than 20. We won't win big games if we don't

Our attack looked slow first half and that's because of slow play if the ball you have highlighted in the first half, in the 2nd half with the quick play if the balls our attack looked better and so did our halfs, more space meant better kicks highlighted in our kick chase, which was excellent 2nd half.

I still think Pryce will be back and have a big day in our season, not sure where you could play him currently?

.... I'd bring Pryce back at no 6.
I'm still not convinced Carlos is the answer (yet), and the next 2 games against Warrington and Cas really could cement a top 2 place.
Not the games to be proving that Carlos is the answer.

Yeh why not go with carlos on the bench again, pryce back at 6. Worked well against rovers, and is definitely a positive plan b