I love your complete refusal to give Westy any credit. It's disappointing that some of our fans have chosen to be this way about Joe, some have even decided to turn on his mate too. Luckily the coaching staff see his worth. I'm sure you agree with the coaches about Westerman, you do about Miller after all.

Maybe you can cross reference your comment about me not giving Westerman any credit with my first post in this thread praising him and having him in my top three for Friday's game which I posted straight after the game. Unlike yourself I give my praise for any player based on merit and form. You on the other hand support certain players regardless of their level of performance and indeed, in the case of Horne on Friday, actively talk down their rivals for the same position however unjustified it is. Westy had an excellent game on Friday as I posted minutes after the final hooter. Don't let that get in the way of you talking poop though.

Another one blinkered by sentiment regarding Horne. He was poor.

And more poop from you on top.

There's a few people that agree with me though, suppose they're full of too?

You decided to ignore the fact that despite your claim I had praised Westerman I notice. More evidence that you're full of it. It's best to be measured in both praise and criticism. That way you avoid getting entrenched like you often do.

I think you should take your own advice, step back and you'll see why.

Talking in riddles won't help you.

Nothing else will, either.

He gets this way once in a while, arguing obviously lost causes. Thankfully these outbursts are always followed by prolonged absences from the board before he comes back pretending he never posted any of what he did

I'm not talking in riddles, it's clear to anyone. Half the time it's just poster v poster on here rather than debating the actual issue.

I think Westerman had a blinder on Friday and was instrumental in at least two tries. I also think Horne was poor as the things he is lauded for should be bread & butter for a half back while he made some terrible decisions in both defence and attack, blowing the 3 man overlap was criminal. I also think Whiting was poor, despite him getting Sky's MOM, but he has very high standards, so his poor is still probably above average.

You think differently! Ah well, i'm sure neither of us will lose sleep over it.

Ah, classic Jake. Why don't you tell us again how much our players earn?

Are these private squabbles or can anyone join in??

That was a bit of a turning point, IMO. The first ptb any of our players truly dominated and we scored straight off the back of it. We then improved quite a bit in this area.

Just on the Westerman thing, I'm not his biggest fan but he did play well on Friday and his passing at the line was actually much better then I was expecting and actually helped create the space we needed out wide. If that continues then his worth to the team may well start to even out the negative aspects of his game and fans will start to cut him some slack. Still think Paea was the best player on the pitch though.