All fans were a credit to our Club

..... except one pi$$ed up tool who was flicking the Vs to the Cru fans every opportunity he got! Fans like him we do not need!

Ha! No, he came in, waved and said hello and went back to the 'staff area'. I was sat next to Sir Jonny who, when asked about RA, said he had to go asap for the good of the club. The vibe i got from him was that he'd told AP the same too!

Good old Sir Jonny

They were already in existence.

How about these other great ideas ?? :

Paris St Germain
Gateshead
Mansfield/Nottingham
Carlisle
Cardiff (1950s)
Cardiff/Bridgend (1980s)
South Wales (1996)
Scarborough Pirates
Liverpool/Huyton/Highfield/Runcorn etc
Kent Invicta/Southend
Chorley/Lancashire Lynx

If you wanted to be really subjective you could possibly say that the post-war expansion into Cumbria(Whitehaven and Workington), Doncaster and Blackpool (already gone) hasn't produced top clubs longer term. Neither have Sheffield Eagles or the perennial London experiments (currently 2 struggling clubs)

Expansion doesn't work, yet it seems to be able to attract ridiculous amounts of money into the bottomless pit !

nice touch www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=18389

nice touch www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx?n=18389

rlPress release for Cru future plansrl

lets just hope an uppety chairman with small club syndrome doesn't block you.

all the best, be good to have a strong Crusaders in the championship, especially when you're getting bigger crowds than Wakey!

Great news and really hope the Wrexham public come out and support them

No need to feel sorry for me.
I actually coach at amateur level so am well aware of the health of the game at grassroots level thanks.

The efforts to establish new clubs at professional level have been a total failure and I stick by that claim. Sorry that you weren't able to spot that from the list of clubs I gave !

Would you include Melbourne Storm in that? Whilst it is true that expansion hasn't worked over here, there are examples of modest success. The very fact that Crusaders actually have a fan base after 2 years shows the potential there, it's just a matter of setting it up properly.

I my opinion, for expansion to be considered successful, it has to attract new fans, sponsors and players to the game. I don't think it should be judged purely on the results of the franchise. If London and Wales continue to produce top level players, then it is lunacy not to support these projects.

No I wouldn't include Melbourne Storm, as i was really on about UK expansion

However, alongside Melbourne Storm were Adelaide Rams and Perth Western Reds (you can't count Hunter Mariners and South Queensland Crushers because they were set up in established areas as "rivals" to existing teams in the ARL/SL war)

Didn't go to the game...but I feel Crusaders do have a future in the game in some form.

In Wrexham they quickly built up a 'hardcore' support, who's numbers were not that much lower than some of the other SL teams like Salford and Wakefield. The baffling decision to play games on a Friday night (when they had the potential to attract a lot of away fans being near Wire, Wigan, Saints etc) can't have helped their crowds, nor can the constant bad publicity.

overall I hope they do get a Championship spot, and 'earn' their right to return by meeting the criteria.

artificially placing a team in SL doesn't work though, and it must stop. Teams should be made to work their way up from Championship1 IMO.