It is a concern if we are losing youngsters that we should be hanging on to.

do you know what kicking game means

Like who?

Most of the best Juniors are still signing for Hull, certainly at under 16 level.

and at 15's and 14's.

Makes me laugh when people say about Rovers are gonna start getting the best youngsters. The side i coach has the Yorkshire 'Top Gun' at 14's and him and his whole family are Rovers barmy and are all passholders but he is still chose to go to Hull FC as he knows the system we have in place is far superior.

Dont quite see how other players leaving relates to Jack Briscoe but nevermind and anyway the players that left knew they wouldnt get 1st grade chances and left the club on great terms.

What do you mean Rovers being so active in that area ???

Have to agree, the players I have seen Rovers sign on this year were a little surprising except for one or two.

Think both reserve teams will struggle again, both are going through a big change and it will be a big ask to expect them to compete with some of the better young players in the Reserve league.

Seems Smith is recalling Lee Smith...will this be at the expense of Calderwood??..I thought Gardiner did nothing to warrant keeping his place.His defence was definately suspect. Over rated and made to look better by having world class centre partners...Lyon/Gidley.

I saw this too and thought the same.

A travesty if Smith drops Calderwood instead of the Wandering Gardner, who was shown up utterly by Calderwood on Saturday. Couldn't even recover from yet another out-of-position howler to run after Slater on his own wing. Calders had to run diagonally from his own wing to reach him. If Gardner and co had backed up Slater wouldn't have scored. Interesting that the Aussies chose to score most tries down the Gardner/Gleeson wind tunnel of a wing, and not Calders'.

Smith needs to put his money where is mouth is and choose his players on current merit not reputation through his St Leeds couloured glasses. But I bet he won't.

I would also consider dropping Sinfield for Purdham..Noble dropped him several times for good reason. He is the most over rated player in the country.

Of Rovers homegrown 5 last season, 2 have been slung out, one got 3 appearances all season and one was overlooked at halfback despite Cooke's absences and injuries to Murrell and Webster.

Rovers reserves finished next to bottom of the league.

Morgan is more concerned with tv punditry than youth development as he'll be off the season after next so is hardly interested in the long term.

Hudgell promised that "all the good Hull lads will now want to play for Rovers" after Cooke left - hardly any evidence of that is there?

I'm sure our youth development department are up all night worrying about how to combat Rovers "being so active"

Well done to Ireland, great performance to make it though that group and Scotland also got a win although the 3 day turnaround will have hurt Fiji.

I do hope Agar gives us an xmas present in the shape of Jarod Hayne

Looks like the England squad are heading home early afterall!