Houghton is the most over rated player in Super League. Hull have been inept in the opposition 25 for three years and it starts with his inability at dummy half. Part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

I often wonder if some come on here just to be controversial or just to make sure everyone knows they know f all about Rugby

Yeah it's really weird how people think players like Houghton or even Sean O'Loughlin are over rated but that's the beauty of a forum, for having debate. I've always rated Houghton, as do my mates in Yorkshire who support Leeds/cas/Fev etc.

If leeds had signed him (God forbid) then I expect many people would come out the woodwork and say how marvellous he is!

He was mentioned as a possible signing on the Leeds board prior to us signing Falloon. Quite a few thought his distribution wouldn't be up to scratch. Then again, some may just have been parroting views they'd read on here, I suppose.

Not far off I think. If Sneyd stays fit you'll go better than last year. If he doesn't then your big pack has no one to get them round the park. Bit early for Abdul if sneyd isn't about.
Well be 8th or below. Everyone's season will depend on injuries.

See the usual twaddle happens on here. 3rd or 4th really...

A better pack than Catalans Saints or Castleford for that matter.

The good thing is that in theory a strong pack should mean parity. An average pack with poor depth would be asking for trouble in this comp with others strengthening.

I dont think you guys have the best pack in SL next year. Depending on the games you get out of Ellis I would say your weaker at prop as Taylor aint as good as Paea. Obviously you have a quality back row, thats if your two new overseas signings turn up and play to their potential plus I would take Catalans backrow over yours.
Pryce with another season in his legs, im just not sure what your going to get out of him and Sneyd as has shown in his last two seasons can be pretty inconsistent.
If your forwards and half backs click then it aint going to matter who your outside backs are.

As for SL, I think the top six teams in terms of quality on paper are clearly Leeds, Saints, Wigan, Hudds, Warrigton and Catalan. I think the rest of are just fighting it out for 7th and 8th with us, Cas and you guys as favs.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7621985 Usual pre season fluff, but calls out Jack Logan's skill set and focus on last pass execution.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7621985 Usual pre season fluff, but calls out Jack Logan's skill set and focus on last pass execution.

Zzzzzzzzz yeh yeh, keep teling yourself that, you might start believing it

Tbf the point on the halves at least is valid. Massive responsibility on Sneyd to drag us round the park. Would love to see him and Abdull build a strong partnership.

Ellis targeting the Rovers friendly with a view to playing v Salford. Likely to be either prop or 13. Not sure about that, I like him out wide, but I guess Mini and Frank self-select if fit.

Taylor is better than Paea. Bigger. More mins. Better hands. Similar stats. Young and continually improving. Paea is a bigger force in defense that's all. Ellis is adding to the prop roster so it can only improve it.
On what basis do you go with catalans back row? Which 1 of them is better than pritchard? Which 1 have already proven himself in this comp like mini? Manu was a bit down in form last year tbf. That still leaves him on a par with Stewart at worst cos he was poor for souths.
Sneyd be fine. He was mostly over all. Unless u watched all of hulls games I wouldn't read to much into the comments of the FC drama Queens on here and social media. Even Pryce wasn't as bad as some make out. Was fine for a long time then lost form a bit. Beauty is though Abdull with a lot of games has shown he can do it. Hopefully kicked on further still.
On paper I don't think you can make to much of the teams. Wigan are least changed and look strong to me. Personally all the teams you name above hull are flimsy in areas Barring Leeds who don't so much have weakness just a question mark over how they'll deal with their losses.
Hull have questions too obviously. Think the leagues really shortened up with how the lower teams have strengthened and Leeds have weakened. God I can't wait

I think you'll do the same as last year. Before you all start read this again in 10 months time and then reply.

Zeb Taia is a big loss to Catalans and the competition IMO.