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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Logan Moy will be in the squad for Saturday and has a good chance of making his debut.'"



Tony Smith offers chance to fresh Hull FC young gun with 'strong' chance of debut
Tony Smith will potentially debut another young Hull FC player this week.

then looks a right tit when he is 18th man

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After Much to and fro I've decided to go. Everyone different and can certainly see The argument not to. But it's just in my blood to go. Hopefully seen an improved display.

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Quote: hull2524 "After Much to and fro I've decided to go. Everyone different and can certainly see The argument not to. But it's just in my blood to go. Hopefully seen an improved display.'"


The only reason I'm going is there's sod all on the telly and I've got feck all to do.

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Quote: bonaire "Tony Smith offers chance to fresh Hull FC young gun with 'strong' chance of debut
Tony Smith will potentially debut another young Hull FC player this week.

then looks a right tit when he is 18th man'"


I read he can also play hooker so that may sway it in his favour

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I'll be there with my 2 grandkids. We believe in any kind of weather.

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: bonaire "It wont change until Smith goes.
I really cant believe how far Smith has taken us backwards.
If there is anyone out there that supports Smith and can tell me one positive to team performance since he has been here let us all know'"


I tried to stay positive for as long as possible, hoping that we would see some indications of hope and progress to come (however minor those signs were to be) but my patience finally snapped completely at half-time in the Leigh debacle.

The only conclusion I can come to, for Smith still being in post, is that Pearson still believes in the work that Smith is putting in behind the scenes during the week (this so-called 'culture' change that keeps being trotted out after each weekly humiliation!) and he is of the opinion that in the years to come this work will bear fruit and provide the foundation stones for all future success! Unfortunately, none of that is feeding through to the fanbase who can only see hopeless capitulation re-occurring each week. We can hardly applaud what we can't even see!

The only other reason for Smith still being head coach, that I can see, is that Pearson simply has no idea of where to go or who to turn to if he were to sack Smith and therefore has left himself with no option but to stick with a plan which clearly is no longer working (if indeed it ever was!). Pearson has dug a hole for himself so deep that he now can't scramble back out of it. The worst part is, he's dragged the entire club along with all of its supporters down into the hole with him!

On Smith's appointment, I honestly believed we had made a step in the right direction, that at the very least Smith would have the club pointing in the right direction, laying down a solid base for possibly someone else, further down the line, to build on, putting back in a position to once more challenge at the top of the game. If that is indeed still the scenario then it has become nigh on impossible for any of us to see the vision, even if you have 20/20 eyesight (which at my age I don't!).

Like I said, I tried to remain positive, tried to see some indication of progress but, under Smith, we are going so far backwards, and at such a rate, I am starting to worry that what has happened under his tenure may already have become irreversible. Changing the club's philosophy, attitude and mentality is a very laudable concept and would, undoubtedly, lay the foundations for more successful times, but for the life of me I fail to see how taking 50 point hammerings every week can assist that process, and those hammerings have to be laid at Smith's office door (that is if we actually can afford the rent on an office for him!).

If this is allowed to go on for much longer, it may possibly kill the club permanently.

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Quote: Bombed Out "I read he can also play hooker so that may sway it in his favour'"


He is primarily a full back who also plays nine
good luck to the lad but if the idea was to play full back and move Hoy to six what does that say to Litten
Alternatively if the idea was to use him off the bench as a nine then what does that say to Balmforth.
Think we all know the answer for Balmforth but is Litten now on the naughty step.
Personally dont think he will play

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Quote: bonaire "He is primarily a full back who also plays nine
good luck to the lad but if the idea was to play full back and move Hoy to six what does that say to Litten
Alternatively if the idea was to use him off the bench as a nine then what does that say to Balmforth.
Think we all know the answer for Balmforth but is Litten now on the naughty step.
Personally dont think he will play'"


It doesn't matter if his best position is full back he'll end up playing nine.

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A bit on Balmforth and Litten

rlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-explains-denive-balmforth-9204326rl

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Quote: BP1 "I tried to stay positive for as long as possible, hoping that we would see some indications of hope and progress to come (however minor those signs were to be) but my patience finally snapped completely at half-time in the Leigh debacle.

The only conclusion I can come to, for Smith still being in post, is that Pearson still believes in the work that Smith is putting in behind the scenes during the week (this so-called 'culture' change that keeps being trotted out after each weekly humiliation!) and he is of the opinion that in the years to come this work will bear fruit and provide the foundation stones for all future success! Unfortunately, none of that is feeding through to the fanbase who can only see hopeless capitulation re-occurring each week. We can hardly applaud what we can't even see!

The only other reason for Smith still being head coach, that I can see, is that Pearson simply has no idea of where to go or who to turn to if he were to sack Smith and therefore has left himself with no option but to stick with a plan which clearly is no longer working (if indeed it ever was!). Pearson has dug a hole for himself so deep that he now can't scramble back out of it. The worst part is, he's dragged the entire club along with all of its supporters down into the hole with him!

On Smith's appointment, I honestly believed we had made a step in the right direction, that at the very least Smith would have the club pointing in the right direction, laying down a solid base for possibly someone else, further down the line, to build on, putting back in a position to once more challenge at the top of the game. If that is indeed still the scenario then it has become nigh on impossible for any of us to see the vision, even if you have 20/20 eyesight (which at my age I don't!).

Like I said, I tried to remain positive, tried to see some indication of progress but, under Smith, we are going so far backwards, and at such a rate, I am starting to worry that what has happened under his tenure may already have become irreversible. Changing the club's philosophy, attitude and mentality is a very laudable concept and would, undoubtedly, lay the foundations for more successful times, but for the life of me I fail to see how taking 50 point hammerings every week can assist that process, and those hammerings have to be laid at Smith's office door (that is if we actually can afford the rent on an office for him!).

If this is allowed to go on for much longer, it may possibly kill the club permanently.'"


A great post that mirror and animates what many are thinking. It does appear to everyone I speak to that they think that Adam has either run out of ideas or money or has lost interest and wants a way out but can't find one. But most of all the biggest gripe is that no one is talking to us above the coaching level.

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "A bit on Balmforth and Litten

rlhttps://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/tony-smith-explains-denive-balmforth-9204326rl'"


I wouldn't this, if this applied to some of the first team players.

For example what did Tindall do to cone straight into the side on place of Martin.

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Spoke to Danny yesterday two cracked ribs and a popped Cartilage so he be out for 3/4 weeks minimum and he said no point in injecting it as it won't heal, was very downhearted about where the club is going.
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Don't think I've been less excited for a game, Huddersfield aren't the most glamorous of opponents at the best of times, they out 50 points on us 2 weeks ago and we're further decimated by injuries. Fair play to anyone that's actually giving up a day of their weekend to go to the game and watch it

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Achieved really poorly in a Spreadsheets assessment, only completing one task and scoring 4/40, will reflect his ARE's in the next report. Will organize a session for him to come and work within a small group to support his understanding of the topic. He does struggle in class, but not to this level, think he struggles with the pressure of test condition assessment's. Didn't use his extra time also.

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Quote: Dave K. "I wouldn't this, if this applied to some of the first team players.

For example what did Tindall do to cone straight into the side on place of Martin.'"


Or apply it to Okunbor who Smith admits is struggling but yet still plays him.
It seems these youngsters are the scapegoats.

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