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Quote: Wilde 3 "Odd comments, when people like Sao, Ma'u etc have been consistently good. It's the 'internal' players who go into cruise control, comfortable, think they're untouchable that is the issue'"


Not sure how well that comment will go down TBH with some players.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "Not sure how well that comment will go down TBH with some players.'"

Houghton can sod off to Toronto if he doesn't like the truth, he has been average at best for two seasons.

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Quote: WestEndThinker "Houghton can sod off to Toronto if he doesn't like the truth, he has been average at bezt for two seasons.'"

You didn't read Shaw's article then?

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Quote: ccs "You didn't read the article then?'"

which article. I am not in the habit of trawling through endless pages of the same old excuses.

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Quote: WestEndThinker "which article. I am not in the habit of trawling through endless pages of the same old excuses.'"

So you reply to a quote not having the faintest idea what it was referring to.

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Between Willde3 and Irregular I can get the gist, back on topic, instead of sniping...(just an idea)

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Quote: WestEndThinker "Between Willde3 and Irregular I can get the gist, back on topic, instead of sniping...(just an idea)'"


The jist of it is that Last is saying the "External" players are not performing because they can't cope with the pressure of playing for a club of this size.

His comments are both nonsense and embarrassing.

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Wasn’t it some “external” players that weren’t happy With Radfords coaching methods, and told AP that?

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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "It's nonsense from Last. Surely players signed by Wigan, Warrington , Saints and Leeds all feel the pressure too.'"


Maybe its not all complete nonsense in a sense as I think the issue is two fold. It may well be that the external players coming in struggle as its clearly evident that players that come in more often than not seem to fail to reproduce the form they have shown elsewhere.

It maybe they struggle with the pressure in Hull compared to the likes of St's, Wigan, Leeds etc in terms of the goldfish bowl Hull is a totally different prospect. The other issue that I think plays a part in our downfall and in turn in the performance of the individuals and as a team is the clear lack of playing structures in place with an over reliance on the skill of individual players to win games rather than structured play. That is what I think the main issue and problem stems from.

This is why I believe we are so inconsistent, have no real support play, are too one dimensional, have poor last play options, are too slow at the ptb both in attack and defence etc. I think because of the lack of this structure that is so evident in the likes of St's & Wigan for example means that the players at Hull are under a lot more pressure as individuals to perform week in week rather than as a team. Rather than it been a fluid system everyone knows and plays too without having to think too much about it, we tend to play not seemingly knowing what everyone is doing and having to think and second guess everything as they go.

I am not defending any of the players or the coaching set up and its pretty clear that they have all in the majority failed to perform and there can be and should be no excuses for that as AP has given them just about every tool to enable them to deliver on the field.

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Quote: oooh Gravy! "The jist of it is that Last is saying the "External" players are not performing because they can't cope with the pressure of playing for a club of this size.

His comments are both nonsense and embarrassing.'"


If he has said that it wont go down well with the players or Pearson.
Just sped up his departure

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "There’s a guy who’s just been appointed as Assistant at St. George. Got over 15 years of first grade coaching experience, having previously been assistant at the Sharks, Wests Tigers, Parramatta Eels, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Brisbane Broncos.
Would maybe be a good appointment?


Given the chance he would have been a very good coach for the club
never moaned even when he had 14 players unavailable at one stage

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Quote: oooh Gravy! "The jist of it is that Last is saying the "External" players are not performing because they can't cope with the pressure of playing for a club of this size.

His comments are both nonsense and embarrassing.'"

agree 100% with you there!

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I have no idea what Last is doing with those comments

It’s another case of excusitis

A great leader never blames his troops and he’s not even a Pretend Leader

What a immature statement to make - small town thinking rather than Big City Intelligence

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