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On paper the 2020 side looks better than the 2019 one. However, in answer to the title question, Radford is still going to be in charge, so no. Our biggest issue still remains.

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Yep think they will. Our pack will be one of the best in the league. The backs will have a field day. IMO will defo be challenging

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Quote: hull2524 "Yep think they will. Our pack will be one of the best in the league. The backs will have a field day. IMO will defo be challenging'"


But if we can't keep hold of the ball, continue to give cheap penalties away, simply rely on a crash and bash game plan rather than get a proper attacking structure to our game and don't improve our defensive deficiencies then we are not really any better off other than upgrade on players.

If we actually sorted out the issues that plaque us and have done for the past few years and more (even during the 2 CC winning seasons) we would more than likely have achieved more even with the players we've had and not had the capitulations we seem only too keen to serve up.

We looked absolutely devoid of any sort of structure on Saturday and do not seem to have the mental attitude to put a game to bed, dig in when needed or have any other options available if plan A isn't working.

I like Radford and what he has done to turn the club around but something needs to be addressed within the coaching structure and a fresh face from outside needs to be added as we are just too one dimensional and seem to rely more on the skill of individuals rather than set structures. So if we lose one or two players we just simply can't cope as we don't appear to have the attacking structures in place to cover the loss of players.

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As a few posters have said . It is down to Coaching .
Radford is not the man to take us to the next level , to sustain success.
A new broom is needed , fresh ideas to inject some enthusiasm and energy.
We have blown 2nd spot , with an error ridden lacklustre performance.

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Quote: Irregular Hoops "To be fair I think the fans have been pretty supportive, even when we had that horrendous losing run last year. The “poor atmosphere at the KCom” is a cop out to be honest.
If they feel pressure, it’s the price you pay for playing for a big club with passionate fans. Can always go and play for London where the atmosphere might be more forgiving.
They also play for a coach with high expectations who tells it as it is - pretty much like the fanbase!'"


100%. The club wants to be grateful that over 10k are turning up every week after some of the dross they've served us up over the last two seasons. It should be the team who give the fans something to shout about.

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Will 2020 just be:

(I) Plan A
(II) See (I)

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Just imagine if we'd have done what was expected on Saturday and beat Salford. We'd be clear in second place, and all would be rosey in the garden.

Yet lose, and still joint second place, and we're in a major crisis.

The small margins of sport eh?

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "Just imagine if we'd have done what was expected on Saturday and beat Salford. We'd be clear in second place, and all would be rosey in the garden.

Yet lose, and still joint second place, and we're in a major crisis.

The small margins of sport eh?'"


It would have been papering over the cracks thought wouldn't it.

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "Just imagine if we'd have done what was expected on Saturday and beat Salford. We'd be clear in second place, and all would be rosey in the garden.

Yet lose, and still joint second place, and we're in a major crisis.

The small margins of sport eh?'"


The problem is we didn't do what was needed and the manner in which they went about it was simply not good enough and another heavy defeat at home and it isn't an isolated incident which is why its an issue.

But lets just ignore that fact and yippee were in joint 2nd well 4th actually due to our shockingly bad negative pts difference with a very real threat of not making the top 5 based on recent performances. Its not a major crisis but there are serious issues that need addressing. Why should we just be happy as we're still in the top 5 but ignore the fact we have, this season turned in some of most abject performances on more than a few occasions?

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Quote: Chris71 "The problem is we didn't do what was needed and the matter in which they went about it was simply not good enough and another heavy defeat at home and it isn't an isolated incident which is why its an issue.

But lets just ignore that fact and yippee were in joint 2nd well 4th actually due to our shockingly bad negative pts difference with a very real threat of not making the top 5 based on recent performances. Its not a major crisis but there are serious issues that need addressing. Why should we just be happy as we're still in the top 5 but ignore the fact we have, this season turned in some of most abject performances on more than a few occasions?'"

I hate to say it, but I can see a blow out like last year.

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "Just imagine if we'd have done what was expected on Saturday and beat Salford. We'd be clear in second place, and all would be rosey in the garden.

Yet lose, and still joint second place, and we're in a major crisis.

The small margins of sport eh?'"


Who is saying we are in a major crisis? We are a decent side who have had a mediocre season. Under Radford, that's all we can ever hope to be imo, regardless of who we sign. If we really want to be a serious threat next year and beyond, there needs to be a change in coaching. If he doesn't get us to a grand final this year then that should be the end of the road imo.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Who is saying we are in a major crisis? We are a decent side who have had a mediocre season. Under Radford, that's all we can ever hope to be imo, regardless of who we sign. If we really want to be a serious threat next year and beyond, there needs to be a change in coaching. If he doesn't get us to a grand final this year then that should be the end of the road imo.'"


We didn’t look like a decent side on Saturday, and considering the reward on offer, the performance was heartbreaking. Admittedly we were without Sika & Mini, plus Albert.

Regarding Radders, he will be in charge next year regardless of making the GF or not this year. With the new playing staff assembled, next year he has to improve our style of play, and our defence is nowhere near good enough to win anything.

The basics have been forgotten this season, catching, passing, running, tackling.

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We really are missing a trick with Shaul's inability to create. Whether that is his fault or the Radders I do not know. But it needs sorting.

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Quote: JACK DETH "We really are missing a trick with Shaul's inability to create. Whether that is his fault or the Radders I do not know. But it needs sorting.'"

It’s got to be tactical, Radford obviously doesn’t feel the need for the fb to turn provider, clearly it ain’t something practiced in trading over the last 5 years. Shaul still wouldn’t be in the team if it was something practiced for that long and he still ain’t getting it

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I agree with most sentiments posted on here but I do think shaul is a victim of our pedestrian passing most times .Like Jake mentioned a few posts back , By the time he's linked in and got the pass , theres no overlap created or gap to run into . I'd drop Sneyd before Shaul , He's way to inconsistent player for such a important role .

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