I don't really understand what a lot of Hull fans expect. As a collective we seem to mentally position ourselves up with the likes of Wigan and Saints when the reality is if you look at the results over the past 20-25 years the club's peers are really the likes of Castleford and Catalans, which is where we are now.
I'd also rather have the sporadic hammerings above than spreading these points conceded over a wider series of games. We'd be serious relegation candidates of that happened.

I'll be amazed if Radford isn't here this year, the way Pearson speaks about him and backing him by to change the squad. Unless we have a finish to the season similar to last year I think he will still be here.

Thursday's game is massive.

Radford going nowhere so it's a pointless discussion.

I agree with Jake, he'll stay! However, 12 games in which we conceded 30 points between Magic weekends, does however smack to a lot of people of a group of players who are 'picking their matches' and its the fact that once we are two or three tries behind we as fans are all resigned to the fact that we will lose and its just then a question then of by how many.

Id like to see Radford moved on , A poster said a month back " the club has gone stale and a need to freshen it all aspects of the club up " . Here we are again , discussing another hammering .

That is something that really grates on me and is so far from the truth its unreal.

What, about those players or about not having the cash?

Disappointing that the senior players go missing when pressure on,JW in particular should be leading from the front rather than shaking his head and waving his hands in desperation.

We've beat every Super league team besides Saints this season. We've won away at two of the teams above us, we're well placed in the league and still in the Cup, so still on target for our season objectives. Yet we've been calling for our coach, one of our most successful ever to be sacked all season long.

Strange times.

Well that's okay then.
I will forgive the utter dross served up yesterday and the numerous other times the team have failed to turn up and been royally spanked oh and the numerous other unwanted records we've accrued including the 1 yesterday.
Suppose if you're happy to just accept and settle then we will never evolve or progress.

I told no lies though, did I? We're still on track and listening to most people in pre season, we're in a better position than expected.

In real terms then yes you are right.
I suppose I would be happy with that and the results but for me it's the performances and the cricket scores we regularly get posted on us and the fact Radford has no idea how to rectify the problem which causes me issues.

I would like a change but I am not a Radford hater. He is given me two if the best days of my life but he is looking a broken man in interviews and has the world on his shoulders. I've said the problem before with rugby is the recruitment time. There isn't a right time to sack a coach in away unless the coach agrees to step down at the end of the season and a new one is appointed ready to come in who can identify players, which rarely happens. It happens with Radford appointed with no time to sign his new players

It’s ok to disagree

I happen to think it’s so far to the truth it’s unreal
The lock in at Widnes of all places !! Who led that ?

On that day in 2016 we actually almost lost the Cup
It was practically a miracle tackle that 9/10 would have still seen us lose the CC that day
However the combined forces of Fonua-Ellis-Watts and Sneyd won us the CC. In fact the semi final v Wigan, which was almost SoO type in its ferocity was heavily influenced by Fonua.

Before that trio we were garbage and after we are garbage
The only constant ?

As I say happy to agree to disagree

If you really think the cup win and run was down to 4 players you really know little about sport and rugby.

Who signed the players, who picked the team, I know you won't have been there, but some contributions from players in other rounds in 2016 nad 17 like Taylor at Saints away, Houghton's tackle, Kelly at Leeds semi in 2017.

Conditioning staff to help us hold on in the semi at Wigan when under the kosh.

Ellis and Watts were here well before 2016, both played in the 2013 final for example, how come we didn't win that one?

Maybe it was all down to Fonua.

Absolutely clueless.