Ahh, well, both of them are injured but there is no doubt they've made a positive contribution at Wakey, quite how much credit Hull can take for that, I dunno.
We're gonna take credit for Ellis though...lol

But it shouldnt have been a transitional season.
Poor recruitment has made it the season it is.
Radford has to take the responsibility for that.
We had the platform from two Challenge Cup wins to kick on but poor decisions starting with the Watts fiasco have seen us on the end of several huge losses.
Once you build a platform for success the sign of a good coach and management is to keep it going.
Radford has failed and now we will have a huge turnover of players in preparation for next season which should include several of the fringe/reserve players who are just not good enough.

Does the above then mean next season becomes another 'transitional' as the new signings need a season to settle in ?
That's what a lot of posters are saying on here as the reason for mediocre results etc this season
Jam tomorrow syndrome

So am I the only one who still thinks we're gonna win Super league this year?

This post will age very well.

Joint third worst defence in Super League too. Warrington away in three weeks.

Awful stat, simply not good enough. Need the pack sorting.

Defence is about attitude. worse teams than ours have defended much better against saints and wire this season.

Slightly off topic but related to defence.

Have we combined with our East Hull neighbours to set an all time record for the highest aggregate number of points(116) conceded in their 2 matches played on the same day?

+39
+22
-26
-29

Youre not joint 3rd, you're in 5th place with a - 65 point difference from the team in 3rd

Are we also joint 6th?

Nope, still 5th by +3 on 6th.

Depends on how miserable your outlook is. We're in a play-off place for now. Let's enjoy it while we can.

Soccer fans sit through a season of dross just to get promotion
I was watching Leeds Utd v Sheff We’d last week and after 8 mins I had to turn off
It was shocking for entertainment

I would like to think that many FC fans would put guts and all rugby before just sitting close in a play off spot

So what if we’re 6th

Make it sound amazing

We have served up some incredible pathetic excuse for Rugby too many times and sitting 6th should mean next to nothing

Fans want a team that fights tooth and nail and plays with pride
That team will make the play offs every year

You think you might have learnt from your mate Bumpy ( I see Denton is still unleashing his fury against Radders on tother forum ) about prematurely shooting oneself in the foot.
You'll have to let me know about what failure barometer you have in usage?
Still going strong in both comps as far as I can see.
Has your new Australian coach managed to find any local digs yet?