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| Quote: Dave K. "Fash is an Ok squad player, the type of player you need if they are cheap and plays 10-15 games, it doesn't help that he comes on with Masi, Downs etc.
Downs isn't good or big enough, I've seen more in Turgut (Who will be gone at the end of the year) and Lane to say they will be better players.
I really like the look of Scott, he is still only 18, could be a great player, any reason to look at Griffin in the pack.
Injuries are helping us, but some senior players like Shaul, Kelly, Carlos and Houghton have been off form for a few weeks now.'"
Agree with just about all of this.
Especially about the senior players who need to show a bit more.
For the sake of the careers of a few of the finge players, it maybe worth then either leaving or going out on loan for a season to see if regular game time will improve them. Although I would not class Hadley as a frinnge player, the year he had at Wakey did him the world of good.
We need to free up some cap space to sign an other prop, unless either Mini or Manu are going to go into the front row.
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| Quote: Karen "That's a vile thought!!!
How did he go at doncaster RL and leigh?
If he had proven he was any good I'd welcome him with open arms but doing OK in semi pro rugby union is no real pedigree for me
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| The whole season has been a disaster. I said at the time I thought the Oz trip was a bad idea. We spent a week on holiday, lost against wigan, picked up some injuries then came back and lost a couple of games we would likely have won had we not had the trip. get some suspensions, get some more injuries, sell our 2nd best forward to a near rival, get some more injuries, suspensions etc. Lose loads of away games, get some more injuries, crash out of the cup due to bad disipline, get some more injuries, the season fizzles out, we don't sign anyone new.
Dog shiit
The season never got going for us and is about to end. Let's hope we can still shift plenty of season passes on the back of it
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| Quote: Leigh_Manning "you don't like Lee, we get it, change the blumin record, why don
where in my comment have I made it personal. I said where there are failings, our standard from one match to the next is ridiculously variable in quality in all the segments I mentioned. I don't think Radford has the skillset/knowhow to take us forward, he needs help but seemingly isn't prepared to get the help he needs in various departments.
The question was asked about moving forward, I identified what I think we need to do to move forward.
Instead of picking an argument because you don't like an opinion that doesn't match yours why not make a counter to what I've said and explain what bits are wrong/right and how you would move us forward so that we are more consistent/better team?
How about improve the quality/standard of the youngsters coming in to fill for injuries, game management, mental preparation and in game mental strength, how do we deal with lack of basic skills that crop up regularly, how do you deal with the indiscipline that crops up regularly. Or do you simply think none of these are a problem and fine as they are so need not be looked at to move forward?
Go onto the Hudds thread and there are loads who are repeating the same thing about the same issues that blight us!
So, what
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| Quote: pmarrow "Getting rid of Lee and the staff wouldn't solve anything. I'm amazed at the amount of people not pointing the finger at an under performing pack or Danny Houghton. There lack of go forward and defence cant be coached into them, they have to want to do it. I dont buy its a coaches job to motivate either, these guys are full time professionals.
Not replacing Watts was a mistake but in the long run Masi will benefit from it. Fash on the other hand doesnt cut it for me.'"
Why do players seemingly fit and healthy 'underperform', why does a team of players underperform/not do things right?
There's continual comments about lack of basic skills like passing
There's continual discussion about all the things I mentioned in my first post plus plenty more where the team doesn't seem to get it right or we go from rocks to diamonds and back again.
Yes there are injuries, yes they disrupt partnerships and you are bringing in a subtly lower quality of player most of the time, however how a team performs on the day is more to do with the coach and that preparation/everything that goes on before a game, during training, during the pre season and even in the off season than it is with the players on the pitch managing their performance individually.
this is why a sports psychologist is massively important, I'll keep saying it and people will still call it bullcrap despite the evidence, go ask a world cup winning coach (that'll be Clive Woodward btw) how important mental preparation is and how players need sports psychologists to get the best out of them.
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| The question is, could this team win the GF
Shaul
Faraimo
Carlos
Connor
talanoa
Kelly
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Taylor
Manu
Mini
Westy
Bowden
Paea
Griffin
Hadley
I think it could
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "How did he go at doncaster RL and leigh?
If he had proven he was any good I'd welcome him with open arms but doing OK in semi pro rugby union is no real pedigree for me'"
I think alongside Radders in a sole attacking coach role he'd be great. No real pressure on him and he's certainly got the pedigree in that side of the game.
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| I'd rather have someone from outside the Hull bubble. I doubt that there are any plans to add to the coaching team though.
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| Quote: Dave K. "The question is, could this team win the GF
Shaul
Faraimo
Carlos
Connor
talanoa
Kelly
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Taylor
Manu
Mini
Westy
Bowden
Paea
Griffin
Hadley
I think it could'"
Next season? We’re prop short to help out Taylor, carrying the front row majority of the time. And a back rower short, start of season I would of loved to of kept Manu but he’s missing too many games now. Mini just isn’t effective enough anymore, did nothing first few months of season and hasn’t stepped up enough. Would of kept one of them but keeping both is going backwards.
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| Quote: Dave K. "The question is, could this team win the GF
Shaul
Faraimo
Carlos
Connor
talanoa
Kelly
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Taylor
Manu
Mini
Westy
Bowden
Paea
Griffin
Hadley
I think it could'"
It would be nice to see that team this season Dave, it would take some beating
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| Wasn’t Brett Hodgson close to joining the coaching team a couple of years ago?
Must have identified the need.
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| Quote: Dave K. "The question is, could this team win the GF
Shaul
Faraimo
Carlos
Connor
talanoa
Kelly
Sneyd
Green
Houghton
Taylor
Manu
Mini
Westy
Bowden
Paea
Griffin
Hadley
I think it could'"
Sorry but no.
Time to get brutal - Both Paea and Bowden should be released and two quality front rowers need to be signed (Bienek could be one but i doubt it as hes too young and inexperienced) - then we'll challenge
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| Bowden looks a decent player
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Bowden looks a decent player'"
He is, was brilliant in 2016/17. Madness to suggest him getting released
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| Quote: FC Callum "Next season? We’re prop short to help out Taylor, carrying the front row majority of the time. And a back rower short, start of season I would of loved to of kept Manu but he’s missing too many games now. Mini just isn’t effective enough anymore, did nothing first few months of season and hasn’t stepped up enough. Would of kept one of them but keeping both is going backwards.'"
It's great saying release them both, but is there better out there that we could sign?
That team is as good as any this season, apart from Saints and if the lose Barba next year it would seriously weaken them.
I'd love to sign a couple of top forwards but I'm not due great out there and available, has anyone signed any for next season?
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