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Quote: SirStan "Had his best game in red & white today, showed maturity when managing the game out in the final quarter. Excellent kicking game including a 40/20.

Now you have Kelly (spit) signed up for 2018 can we keep him please?'"


Spitting? Hope you weren't one of those involved in the reported Hock kerfuffle after the game. eusa_naughty.gif

I'd be surprised if we get Abdull back tbh. Glad he's doing well though.

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Quote: scarrie "Out of interest, who do we have currently that you'd class as an overpaid plodder?'"

I was referring to Pritchard, instead of being tackle busting goliath (Thompson made 3 fewer by comparison) and wrecking defences, he barely contributed 20-25 minutes some games and considering his huge salary/how he was bigged up was a massive dissapointment IMO.
Far too often he was an ineffective overpaid plodder.

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Who was played out of position up the middle. Radders even mentioned this.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Spitting? Hope you weren't one of those involved in the reported Hock kerfuffle after the game.
He's been name checked a couple of times along with naughton by Radford in the week since the cap raise about next year
He also signed a new deal in the recent weeks. I see no reason to think he wont be back
I'd replace thommo with hadley
Abdull replacing washy
Naughton for michaels...come next year with their subsequent experience gained this year and another offseason I'd call all these as upgrades

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If Rovers get promoted he will stay with them , for a fee to us .
If not back to us . Already agreed by both Clubs .

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Quote: HFC Boy "If Rovers get promoted he will stay with them , for a fee to us .
If not back to us . Already agreed by both Clubs .'"


Why would we agree to that?

Either we want him or we don't and whatever league they are in shouldn't be a factor?

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Think he will come back to us

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Quote: davey37 "Why would we agree to that?

Either we want him or we don't and whatever league they are in shouldn't be a factor?'"


It could just reflect the player's preference. You're happy to sell, but he only wants that move if Rovers are back in SL.

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Quote: Mild Rover "It could just reflect the player's preference. You're happy to sell, but he only wants that move if Rovers are back in SL.'"


Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.

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Quote: Dave K. "Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.'"


Exactly. If we are happy to sell then that suggests we don't want him?

Then why has he recently signed a new contract?

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Quote: davey37 "Exactly. If we are happy to sell then that suggests we don't want him?

Then why has he recently signed a new contract?'"

Then we can get a fee for him if he decides to stay at Rovers, if not we have a player who will have had a full years run without being dropped for others ineffectiveness elsewhere so could do a job for us in place of a fair few positions. However in his (now) preferred position that would mean a change in our tactics somewhat. You only have to see how Westerman flourished last season in a more ball handling role than he'd had of recent times.

IF we can change that and have a 13 a la SOL then I think that would benefit us immensely, it also gives us a deep field kicker, back up goal kicker and he'll still only be turning 22 at the beginning of next season.

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Quote: Dave K. "Even Radford wants him or he doesn't it wouldn't be dependent on Rovers coming up as they could just transfer list him and I'm sure that another club in SL would look to sign him.'"


It’s all hypothetical, but the player has a contract with you so has a big say in decisions affecting his future. The only way it could come down to a simple ‘Radford doesn’t want him, so we can get rid.’ is if Hull pay up his contract, denying him the single option of staying at Hull.
There are plenty of reasons why Hull might not be able to dispose of him any way they please (especially for a fee! He’s been good for us and has potential, but it is ‘good’ rather than ‘brilliant’, and until Leigh, it was only against Championship opposition). If we’re interested, he might not fancy another season at this level if we don’t get up. If Salford, for example, were interested he might not fancy the move or commute.
I appreciate that staying at a club that doesn’t particularly want wouldn’t be ideal, but with a contract you can bide your time to see if the wind changes, or leave on terms that might suit you better.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Then we can get a fee for him if he decides to stay at Rovers, if not we have a player who will have had a full years run without being dropped for others ineffectiveness elsewhere so could do a job for us in place of a fair few positions. However in his (now) preferred position that would mean a change in our tactics somewhat. You only have to see how Westerman flourished last season in a more ball handling role than he'd had of recent times.

IF we can change that and have a 13 a la SOL then I think that would benefit us immensely, it also gives us a deep field kicker, back up goal kicker and he'll still only be turning 22 at the beginning of next season.'"


I agree. We struggle at times in attack due to only having two pivots in the side. Shaul [ishould[/i be that third pivot when chiming into the line, but he just doesn't have the hands/skills to execute plays, chucking Abdull in there would help, and as you say he provides that other kicking option.

My question mark over him at 13 is more around the other facets a 13 needs to have. In attack, yes, it's a no-brainer, but does he have the defensive capabilities and fitness to defend in the middles for most of a game, and can he make some hard yards in our own half when needed? I'm not sure at the moment, but he does have youth on his side.

That's why Sean O'Loughlin is so good, because he has both of those sides to his game, to a pretty high standard, but unfortunately there's not many players of his type around.

It's the defence and go forward elements we'll be losing when Ellis retires. I'm not holding Abdull to Ellis' high standards by any means, but we have to think about trying to replace those things too, as well as improving the attack.

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Quote: Mild Rover "It’s all hypothetical, but the player has a contract with you so has a big say in decisions affecting his future. The only way it could come down to a simple ‘Radford doesn’t want him, so we can get rid.’ is if Hull pay up his contract, denying him the single option of staying at Hull.
There are plenty of reasons why Hull might not be able to dispose of him any way they please (especially for a fee! He’s been good for us and has potential, but it is ‘good’ rather than ‘brilliant’, and until Leigh, it was only against Championship opposition). If we’re interested, he might not fancy another season at this level if we don’t get up. If Salford, for example, were interested he might not fancy the move or commute.
I appreciate that staying at a club that doesn’t particularly want wouldn’t be ideal, but with a contract you can bide your time to see if the wind changes, or leave on terms that might suit you better.'"

Its all conjecture, he is signed for FC and on loan to KR, they are the only facts we have.

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Quote: PCollinson1990 "Its all conjecture, he is signed for FC and on loan to KR, they are the only facts we have.'"

Being sensible on this forum, isn't a trait often seen.

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