So, the ref gives "no try" on the field but refers to the VR, who overturns the onfield decision and gives a try, but, according to you, that's still no try?

You'll be telling us Compo Campese is fully fit next...

Right I'll say it again if the try is awarded its a try regardless of who makes the decision is that clear enough.If you get a try disallowed in the last minute to win the cup they don't give you the cup because the replay shows it should have stood

You won the cup on the back of a try that wasn't a try. If video refs had been invented Lloyd wouldn't have been ruled as obstructing. "If ifs and ands were pots and pans"

Which match and incident was this from?

The Final. Wasn't it Lloyd who was judged to have obstructed?

Wembley 1980?
If so, I don't recall it. I was only 12 at the time and only saw the game at Wembley.

Not many video recorders around in those days and have never seen a replay of the match since, only the two tries on old BBC footage. I know Rovers fans used to mention the victory up to last August, but they don't seem to talk much about Wembley these days for some reason.

Can't recall it being a major controversial moment in Derby history, unlike Green's Magic try and Dobson's Dan Marino 50 yard forward pass touchdown the previous year.

Indeed it was . As I remember it - Lloyd sent Bray over in the corner, Casey came in late on Lloyd (surprise, surprise!)
after he had passed the ball. Lindop penalised Lloyd for obstruction!

Whoops! Maybe talking about the wrong final.
Against Fev it was Charlie Stone who was penalised, late on.

No you're right re 1980. Ridiculous decision by Lindop but 83 was even worse. Stone had a bad cut on his head, Fev player, think it was' bugger he was on the tip of my tongue came up from the fair tackle covered in Stones blood, Ref reacted badly. Happened right in front of me.

Kr going into magic weekend on the back of a win, confidence must be high at the small kc, hope we take them to the cleaners, keeping us high up the league.

Not much confidence to be taken from that performance, we were dog turd, Widnes sucked more that's all. Our only hope will be the "suspect package" routine