Unlike Lineham and Houghton who between them have cost us 12 points you mean?

We just look really really poor ....
Wigan are playing the game 3 times faster than we are - really showing the difference in class.

Wigan have comprehensively outplayed us but 24-6 is probably a little harsh on us tbh. Plenty of effort and endeavour but it's almost like the two sides are playing a different sport when you look at their attack compared to ours. There's going to have to be an awful lot of effort put into attacking structure over the winter.

That's the season over now as far as top 4 goes. Not a chance of making up 6 points and a massive points difference in 7 games given the quality of the sides we are playing every week. It's time to start working on things for next season and blooding a few youngsters. I'd rather finish 8th and feel we are in better shape for 2016 than scrape into 6th/7th without really showing signs of progress.

Wigan are defending in numbers & running with some venom. You can see they do a double or triple wedge & hit the edge runner but we can't live with them! The difference between top 4 & just making the 8 eh! Westy needs to stop putting that gidley dvd on before a game.

Take a look at who Farrell and Tomkins have spent all night running at and you may change your mind about fielding too many youngsters.

Another typical hull display. Slow ptb, slow line speed, poor defence, predominantly up the middle, looking clueless in attack and allowing off loads for fun.
Wigan unfortunately are worth their lead.

Lineham is going, westerman as been consistently poor for 4 seasons, with a decent bit of form for about a 3rd of last season, overated rubbish, maybe see his potential next season ,

I assume you're talking about Abdull? I can't say that's jumped out at me tbh. He's struggled no more in defence than any of the others.

Ohhh the pressures definitely off, great! Cant wait for the next 7 games. So predicatable its not even funny. I seriously hope they prove me wrong second half

Abdull and Logan. Not so much about struggling in defence (although they have a bit) as keeping them suppressed.

Think Houghton may finally be showing the effects of playing 80 minutes every week. With an injury.

We really need a second hooker to spell him.

well, i was wrong about putting up a fight and making them work for the win

God I hate wigan

this game is a text book example of why we need an attacking coach. more than enough possession in the right areas of the field and virtually nothing to show for it