Westerman is a victim of hype, we openly said we'd paid a substantial fee and he was going to be a great addition to the side. He's proven to be another average SL playuer, problem is so has everyone else we've signed in recent memory, the best players to have moved in terms of FC have predominantly left, it's unfortunate but true.

Most players in SL are, by definition, average. Westerman has at least managed an England call-up in recent memory, which makes him above average.

But my post said that he deserved the criticism he received for his performance on Friday. Clearly that wouldn't involve criticism about him 'never being any good' etc. - just the criticism specifically about the game on Friday. In the same way that if he has a blinder on Wednesday (and let's hope he does - he owes the team one) then I'll be on here singing his praises about that game. I won't suddenly be praising him about Friday though.

getting selected by MacNamara for an already poor side??

I don't buy into all this "international" guff, what has he won.....nothing.

Westerman fully deserved his call up last year after being given a suitable role in the team at Hull. He's been a way off that standard this year with injury a contributing factor.

I agree 100%, but one swallow does not a summer make. He's been far from the worst player this season, for me it has to be down to our "go missing" attack.

Heard a rumour he wants out at Hull and has been given permission to speak to Other clubs, Leeds and Warrington are doing just that apparently, anyone heard anything or is it just the usual crap doing the rounds ?

I believe this is all correct. Doesn't toe the line with Radfords discipline rules, expensive and under performing. We are open to offers which I suspect will allow us to invest in a half back.

You wont see him in a black and white shirt again.

Why would we want to do that?

Leeds bound, if the money's right.

good

shame if true, but just rumour atm

Now sure how I would feel about that. If it was true it would be embarrassing for AP after denying it so recently. It would make some sense though as I think they have to find a place for Abdul and with Manu and Mini in the back row where would he fit? I always thought Westy had not fulfilled his full potential, first we played him out wide which seemed a waste, up the middle least season he looked really good but dropped off since then.

It would also release some cash, I think he only has a season left on his present contract so it may be better to cash in when we can.

Nathan Massey signed to replace him? (Just a rumour over on the Rovers forum).