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Quote: ccs "You seem to have talked yourself out of the argument.'"

I've done my usual mistake of leaving words out while typing, oh well never mind icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Please explain them.'"

it creates an uneven playing field, RL had avoided following the largesses of Football and RU, now we're catching up with paying over the odds.

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Quote: The Mustard Tiger "Some of these comments are pathetic, the game is dying on it's booty thanks the how mediocre it has become due to the salary cap, this is the top level of our game and the top clubs are being punished because the lower clubs are to idle to find investors willing to spend, this move can only be good for the game, just because a club pay out mega bucks for a marque player it doesn't mean he will be amazing over here, plenty have failed in the past, Matty Johns, Trent Barrett, Willie Mason to name but a few'"


I would never describe anyone spending money on Rugby League as an "investor", there's little if no return to be had.

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: RFL "Clubs will only be allowed to sign a marquee player if they meet clearly-defined affordability criteria based around their income and expenditure.'"


The non-club trained allowance has gone up to £175,000.

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Quote: Skippy1975 "it creates an uneven playing field, RL had avoided following the largesses of Football and RU, now we're catching up with paying over the odds.'"


But, SL has to close the gap to the NRL and RU salary caps, otherwise SL will become a fully blown feeder league, won't it?

We've seen plenty of talent leave SL the past few years, with the overall quality of overseas players getting lower. This exemption should help both of those factors and increase the quality of the competition.

Uneven playing field? yeh, I agree, it does to a degree. But I don't think that's as terrible thing as it suggests. There'll be teams which can't afford to use this exemption, but there'll be 7/8 of a league of 12, who can afford it. That's still fairly a fairly even league.

SL shouldn't be content with only being as good as it's worst clubs, with the top half being held back. We want to see the best players possible playing over here don't we?

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "But, SL has to close the gap to the NRL and RU salary caps, otherwise SL will become a fully blown feeder league, won't it?

We've seen plenty of talent leave SL the past few years, with the overall quality of overseas players getting lower. This exemption should help both of those factors and increase the quality of the competition.

Uneven playing field? yeh, I agree, it does to a degree. But I don't think that's as terrible thing as it suggests. There'll be teams which can't afford to use this exemption, but there'll be 7/8 of a league of 12, who can afford it. That's still fairly a fairly even league.

SL shouldn't be content with only being as good as it's worst clubs, with the top half being held back. We want to see the best players possible playing over here don't we?'"


what talent has left SL??

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Quote: Skippy1975 "what talent has left SL??'"


I take it you agree with the rest of the post?

Plenty have left, I don't need to list them out surely? The ones this rule applies to most IMO, would be;
Sam Burgess
Sam Tomkins

Others (some have returned since) include: Joel Tomkins, Mike Cooper, Joe Burgess, Elliot Whitehead, Kyle Eastmond, Chris Ashton, Burgess twins, Josh Hodgson, Lee Mossop. All of which have been in and around the England squad at some point.

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "I take it you agree with the rest of the post?

Plenty have left, I don't need to list them out surely? The ones this rule applies to most IMO, would be;
Sam Burgess
Sam Tomkins

Others (some have returned since) include

So, nobody of any real talent then, nobody who the game has missed, being selected by idiot FatNamara doesn't make them good players.

we'll have to agree to disagree I guess, the game is too expensive as it is, without shelling out wheelbarrows of cash for players like Tomkins.

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He was right in the end:



Some people have very small ambitions and dont want to expand our sport at all

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Quote: Skippy1975 "So, nobody of any real talent then, nobody who the game has missed, being selected by idiot FatNamara doesn't make them good players.

we'll have to agree to disagree I guess, the game is too expensive as it is, without shelling out wheelbarrows of cash for players like Tomkins.'"


Now I get it.

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Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Now I get it.'"

good, I'm glad you agree.

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Quote: Skippy1975 "good, I'm glad you agree.'"


Nah

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Can you have one club trained @ 100k and one external at £150k?

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: hull smallears "Can you have one club trained @ 100k and one external at £150k?'"
No, and its now £175k for non club trained.

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with a fair wack of the marquee singing's wage being counted on the cap means i can stomach this for now

my concern is where will it stop. correct me if i'm wrong but hadn't this idea been dissmissed before but has been brought up again? what irks me is that this is something that Koucash has been banging on about since he took over Salford, to me it seems the RFL will take what he says more seriously because of the attention he garners.

I assume the 8 clubs that voted for this can afford this whereas the 4 that didn't perhaps can't

I'd rather see the extra money spent on these marquee signings put towards a reserve grade otherwise we will lose talent before they make the first grade

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