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Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"I get what you are saying BUT
One of the players left out of the 6 (Gilbert) was a dual international for Australia & played Origin, he was our captain for the 1914 CC winning team (as well as Captain for Australia after WWI) and had a great scoring rate for the time he was here and as I said previously considered to be one of the greatest rugby players not just of his era but of all time..there's a decent write up here on him en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Gilbert
Yeaman whilst a very good centre and has certainly shown glimpses of being at the very top end just isn't the very very best.
Rep honours, sure, but not comparable to others, defensively sound but has always being prone to coming out the line and costing us despite being a big hitter and never shirked in the tackle, also he's never being that great in the air either(IMO). His passing/thought process to get his winger away has always being debateable.
When we are talking about the GOAT we are looking for players with the perfect attributes for that position that stand out not just in their own era within a club but also at international level and are considered greats through time..Yeaman isn't that man but is due ultimate respect for his loyalty to the club, ahievements and no amount of talent.
As I've said, I think to leave Gilbert out over Leuluai and/or Yeaman is a mistake if we are to judge on GREATEST not most loved/well remembered. Both those two had too many defeciencies that should eliminate them from the very very best IMO.'"
Just to add that in the list of the best ever 100 Aus players picked in 2007 for the centenary event, Gilbert was one of 2 players that played for Hull the other being Sterling. Neither was selected in the squad of 17 that was named as the Aus 'Team of the Century' selected from those 100 best players. One player from that team did play for Rovers, however, and you all know his name?!
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Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"I get what you are saying BUT
One of the players left out of the 6 (Gilbert) was a dual international for Australia & played Origin, he was our captain for the 1914 CC winning team (as well as Captain for Australia after WWI) and had a great scoring rate for the time he was here and as I said previously considered to be one of the greatest rugby players not just of his era but of all time..there's a decent write up here on him en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Gilbert
Yeaman whilst a very good centre and has certainly shown glimpses of being at the very top end just isn't the very very best.
Rep honours, sure, but not comparable to others, defensively sound but has always being prone to coming out the line and costing us despite being a big hitter and never shirked in the tackle, also he's never being that great in the air either(IMO). His passing/thought process to get his winger away has always being debateable.
When we are talking about the GOAT we are looking for players with the perfect attributes for that position that stand out not just in their own era within a club but also at international level and are considered greats through time..Yeaman isn't that man but is due ultimate respect for his loyalty to the club, ahievements and no amount of talent.
As I've said, I think to leave Gilbert out over Leuluai and/or Yeaman is a mistake if we are to judge on GREATEST not most loved/well remembered. Both those two had too many defeciencies that should eliminate them from the very very best IMO.'"
Just to add that in the list of the best ever 100 Aus players picked in 2007 for the centenary event, Gilbert was one of 2 players that played for Hull the other being Sterling. Neither was selected in the squad of 17 that was named as the Aus 'Team of the Century' selected from those 100 best players. One player from that team did play for Rovers, however, and you all know his name?!
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| Quote Freddie Miller.="Freddie Miller."Just to add that in the list of the best ever 100 Aus players picked in 2007 for the centenary event, Gilbert was one of 2 players that played for Hull the other being Sterling. Neither was selected in the squad of 17 that was named as the Aus 'Team of the Century' selected from those 100 best players. One player from that team did play for Rovers, however, and you all know his name?!'"
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"As I've said, I think to leave Gilbert out over Leuluai and/or Yeaman is a mistake if we are to judge on GREATEST not most loved/well remembered. Both those two had too many defeciencies that should eliminate them from the very very best IMO.'"
James Leuluai played 29 times for his country, a remarkable number for a player with numerous deficiencies in his game. In truth he was a very good player indeed. I agree that Gilbert deserves inclusion in the 6 nominations but not at Leuluai's expense. As it is centre is obviously historically one of Hull's strongest positions and perhaps there's a case for 8 nominations here where the number of viable candidates is stronger than for example the wingers.
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| Barnett snr and schofield for me.
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| Viakona was incredible in our promotion year. Such a shame we didn't keep him for the first year in Super League.
I'd have him and Schofield in my team
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"James Leuluai played 29 times for his country, a remarkable number for a player with numerous deficiencies in his game. In truth he was a very good player indeed. I agree that Gilbert deserves inclusion in the 6 nominations but not at Leuluai's expense. As it is centre is obviously historically one of Hull's strongest positions and perhaps there's a case for 8 nominations here where the number of viable candidates is stronger than for example the wingers.'"
There is no doubt that JL was a top player, the best centre that NZ had in the late 70s/early 80s but they weren't exactly lining up with class attacking centres from NZ at that time and Jimmy was a stand out of course. That said he did have deficiencies & we are comparing the greatest of all time, just because he got 29 tests under his belt doesn't automatically qualify him as such
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| Quote knockersbumpMKII="knockersbumpMKII"......, just because he got 29 tests under his belt doesn't automatically qualify him as such'"
but if you're Ivor Watts ........
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| i've decided that i'll drop barnett out of the 6 and replace with gilbert. in a sense this has been the toughest position so far because of 8 outstanding candidiates going into 6. nonetheless, selecting an all time team is tough and decisions have to be made. its tough on barnett and yeaman, both outstanding players for hull, but in the company of the other 6 they come up just short.
however one poster has mentioned the possible need for more nominations in this category. whilst its not something i support because it could set a precedent for the later positions i'm willing to test opinion on having say 8 noms in this category
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| schofield and gemmel for me
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| Quote ccs="ccs"but if you're Ivor Watts ........'"
you're point being??
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| You go to great lengths to tell everyone Watts can't possibly be a contender because he was never selected for internationals, and then you say Leuluai shouldn't necessarily be a contender just because he represented his country.
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