I see Sa and Crooks if not next year then the one after, if Crooks does in fact bulk up a bit.

Thanks for making senses of my original post

But with us likely to sign a new centre and even looking at the NRL for options. If he's from overseas I expect him to be a starter and not back up. Us going with four centres who's likely to fall down the pecking order?

It's difficult to look beyond this season as it seems we're in the market for a new centre for next year.

Out of those three (assuming we don't get a new centre), as they are right now I'd go with Yeaman & Sa. Like Cal says, if Crooks can add that bulk in pre-season, hopefully get some confidence back too, he'd play his way in before either of those two as he has the ability.

Probably somewhere between 5 and 10kg at a guess, get into the mid 90's. Pace doesn't need to suffer at all with the correct training.

a few kilos, I don't think he'll lose much pace and if anything a higher volume of muscle mass will increase strength and power so greater acceleration, which is arguably more important than top speed in RL.

Good to see realism from you and Errlee Berd, a few kilo's is realistic, with nothing else to do other than train he can do it, especially with professional assistance.

That's what I was told too when he first came on the scene

With specialist athletics speed training any player can increase their speed.
With someone like Ben Crooks if he could put on 3 or 4 kilos it would not compromise his pace.
I am surprised the club doesn't employ an athletics speed coach for the pre season.

But with Yeaman and Sa we will have the slowest threequarters in Super League.
As Doyle always says there no substitute for pace.
In my opinion when a winger or centre intercepts a pass they should be able to sprint the full length of the field to score given they are already in motion which is possibly a 4 or 5 metres start.

We've had a kicking coach for years... oh hang on

and we started a half back school...... well it is summer holidays

Since Richie Barnett Jnr I've been of the opinion that a winger with a head start shouldn't get caught by an ageing 18 stone prop.

This is actually old news.Radford mentioned it a couple of weeks ago on one of his interviews on Hull FC Live.
More interestingly in his interview post match Castleford he said two players would be at Doncaster yesterday,one being Ben Crooks,but Ben was the only one.
Given Miller has played there the last two weeks and Cooke was not playing,seems like He is not wanted there either.
The Doncaster fans don't rate him at all,yet want Colbon back who seemingly has been playing well for them as a second row forward but has not been available now for 3 weeks.
Anyone know anything?

.... maybe a lack of halfbacks for the Saints game has something to do with it.