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| Quote: Diogenes "We are not the Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea or Liverpool of rugby league. We are Newcastle Utd or Spurs; a team with passionate fans and a proud history, but in the recent past, perennial under-achievers. We will only change that by recruiting the best players, appointing the best coaches, developing our own talent and by ridding ourselves of the corrosive culture which has permeated the club for years.'"
Comparing Hull to Newcastle is pretty spot on. Big support but not a lot else.
Without irresponsible investment from a sugar daddy ( I wouldn't want that anyway) we'll never be a top club, even with it it's not the bee all and end all, look at how Warrington have had to build and build over 10 years, and although they have established themselves as one of the big boys, they'll be hoping for a bigger return then a couple of cups in the coming years.
I find it hard to see what Pearson see's in the club, it's a thankless task really.
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| We go round in circles appointing unproven Head Coaches,when their is no attack structure in place.
At this moment in time - IMO, Radford either needs more support on his backroom staff, ie an Attack Coach - or to be sacked.
The only time, to hire an unproven Head Coach, is when , the attacking structures are set in stone, then the Assistant continues with the same methods, preparations etc.
I dont buy into the theory, of changing player personnel annually, a good coach would mould a group of existing players into a team - Powell for one is an example of this.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: weaver93 "We go round in circles appointing unproven Head Coaches,when their is no attack structure in place.
At this moment in time - IMO, Radford either needs more support on his backroom staff, ie an Attack Coach - or to be sacked.
The only time, to hire an unproven Head Coach, is when , the attacking structures are set in stone, then the Assistant continues with the same methods, preparations etc.
I dont buy into the theory, of changing player personnel annually, a good coach would mould a group of existing players into a team - Powell for one is an exam
ple of this.'"
Powell also had the luxury of Chase buggering off.
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| Quote: Armavinit "Was told yesterday that both Hull clubs are being run into the ground, so Koukash can buy em out and MERGE em. RFL backing him and will play out of brand new stadium, hence Birds Eye.'"
Which bright spark told you that?
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| Quote: Armavinit "Was told yesterday that both Hull clubs are being run into the ground, so Koukash can buy em out and MERGE em. RFL backing him and will play out of brand new stadium, hence Birds Eye.'"
Then you should stop listening to those voices in your head.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Keiththered "Which bright spark told you that?'"
Voices in his head
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| For me the concern isn't the results or the league position. We're told that we're changing our outlook, concentrating on bringing youngsters through rather than signing big names etc and that's always going to take time. Saints have had some poor seasons by their standards of late while they've been fielding kids but it's stood them in good stead because they now have a crop of youngsters with loads of first team experience.
What does alarm me is the amount of players going backwards - including some who you would think would be at the heart of this 'team Hull' business. Lineham and Crooks are the obvious examples but there's Chris Green as well - all a shadow of the players that impressed under Gentle. Jamie Shaul, arguably, not as good as he was last season. Micky Paea nowhere near as good as he was for Rovers last season. Richard Whiting completely bombed out. Watts has been poor. There have been some successes - Westerman, Abdull, Lacaster - but overall the individual players are regressing and the team is getting worse.
So even if you excuse the results, the league position, the questionable man management with young players being publicly bombed out to Doncaster, the inconsistent team selections where players are started one week then dropped altogether the next, the odd behaviour in the transfer market where we've signed people like Carvell and Colbon for no apparent reason only to cast them aside almost immediately, the alarming media statements such as last week's laugh-a-minute claim that Talanoa is one of the best wingers in the competition (presumably we'd find out if he ever went and stood on the chuffin wing) and wrote it all off as inevitable teething problems of a long term project, what faith can you have in Radford to carry out the long term project when players who should be key to it are getting worse?
I thought he was a lousy, ill-disciplined player for us second time around. I thought he was a dreadful captain, standing silently and blowing out of his ars under the posts after we conceded tries while giving away penalties for fun. I think he sounds like that annoying bloke down the pub who reckons he knows everything but actually hasn't got a brain in his head. And so far as coach I think he's been appalling.
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| Quote: BarnetFC "For me the concern isn't the results or the league position. We're told that we're changing our outlook, concentrating on bringing youngsters through rather than signing big names etc and that's always going to take time. Saints have had some poor seasons by their standards of late while they've been fielding kids but it's stood them in good stead because they now have a crop of youngsters with loads of first team experience.
What does alarm me is the amount of players going backwards - including some who you would think would be at the heart of this 'team Hull' business. Lineham and Crooks are the obvious examples but there's Chris Green as well - all a shadow of the players that impressed under Gentle. Jamie Shaul, arguably, not as good as he was last season. Micky Paea nowhere near as good as he was for Rovers last season. Richard Whiting completely bombed out. Watts has been poor. There have been some successes - Westerman, Abdull, Lacaster - but overall the individual players are regressing and the team is getting worse.
So even if you excuse the results, the league position, the questionable man management with young players being publicly bombed out to Doncaster, the inconsistent team selections where players are started one week then dropped altogether the next, the odd behaviour in the transfer market where we've signed people like Carvell and Colbon for no apparent reason only to cast them aside almost immediately, the alarming media statements such as last week's laugh-a-minute claim that Talanoa is one of the best wingers in the competition (presumably we'd find out if he ever went and stood on the chuffin wing) and wrote it all off as inevitable teething problems of a long term project, what faith can you have in Radford to carry out the long term project when players who should be key to it are getting worse?
I thought he was a lousy, ill-disciplined player for us second time around. I thought he was a dreadful captain, standing silently and blowing out of his ars under the posts after we conceded tries while giving away penalties for fun. I think he sounds like that annoying bloke down the pub who reckons he knows everything but actually hasn't got a brain in his head. And so far as coach I think he's been appalling.'"
This. Couldn't agree more.
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| Quote: beetwaste "This. Couldn't agree more.'"
Seconded.
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| Quote: Keiththered "Which bright spark told you that?'"
Sorry my sense of humour, it's the sun here in Zante, gone to my head, didn't think for a minute a Rovers fan would bite on our board I'm sick and tired of the keyboard warriors prattling on about Radford out/Pearson's a tossre. We're not sleeping giants and as for our proud record, "The Panzer Pack" won a title using the play off system in the 50' and contributed to a record number of defeats at Wembley. Sorry to say it but Rovers won more than us in the 80's. We messed about in 2000's. Baldy's correct to say we've seen worse, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's,2000's and now 2010's comes to mind. Get over yourselve,s. It will come good, you'll just have to wait a bit longer
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| Quote: fc baldy "Powell also had the luxury of Chase buggering off.'"
Didn't do too bad last night though
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| Quote: Salford 1961 "Didn't do too bad last night though
No he didn't but look at how well Cas have gone since he left.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "No he didn't but look at how well Cas have gone since he left.'"
Well you should be just as good next year now you've signed up Marc Sneyd!
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
"Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005: |
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| Quote: Salford 1961 "Didn't do too bad last night though
Wow.....where you in the league
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