So the great plan was to kick the ball dead and keep it out of play for as long as possible. Great entertainment abounds then. Also, the weather affected the ball control, Leeds seemed to be OK when it mattered.

I wish Doc would stop being a cheerleader for the current regime. Why doesn't anyone ask him what he thinks needs to be done. It's getting boring now.

Why's everyone going on about the 'appalling weather'? The pitch was wet following the storm before the game, but there was no rain at all during the match. In fact, it was quite bright with clear skies.

Ball would've been a bit slippery but the conditions were far from terrible.

He was the same under Agar. And you are right it is boring.

Really?

Here's a clue. Super League standings;

Leeds 1st

Hull FC 10th

You're not still thinking....surely not....that maybe if you look at yourself at the right angle...in a certain light.....hey!!!!

It's only took you 12 weeks to climb from under your rock , well done

Loads of effort tonight, pleasing debut for Lancaster against the best back line in the competition, and huge stint from Ellis. Story of the season though. In the arm wrestle but too little quality in the three quarters and halves.

The whole world has always known you are rubbish and still you kept on wetting yourselves like you thought you were something good.

Half a million for Ellis for 3 years at Hull FC but still no quality in the three quarters and halves?

Who is running this shambles?

Our Dream Teamers (wing and centre) are both injured. Decent debut from Sa, hopefully he'll build his game time up and partner Talanoa. The halves are a bag of spanners. A decent SH would make such a difference.

What exactly do you want Pearson to 'shake up'? We have a new coach and new players. I agree some of our players aren't good enough, we desperately need a half back to work with Rankin, and Radders is in the deep end, but would changing any of these make a difference half way through the season in our position? I'm not sure.

I say we go with what we've got, build our younger players up and keep working hard. Plenty of players will be in/out again next season, let's hope it's for the better. Pleasing tonight that we've shown a bit of fight, our backs not good enough to contend. Get Fetuli with Sa on one wing while Lineham is back, massively missing him and Crooks on our right. Another write off season, but I'm happy that we're still giving young players debuts and gametime, and they are genuinely progressing well. Going to take a long time to get out of the cack to where we want to be.

Very good post

Well the winger is at least

I keep hearing how pleasing it is that we made an effort tonight. Well, forgive me for disagreeing, but isn't this part of a wider pattern that stretches back years? We put in a good effort against a top side and pick up an unexpected win or a valiant defeat, then look only half interested as we get embarrassed by a side in the bottom half of the table. The idea that we should just blindly persevere with Radford will end up causing as much damage as Agar's tenure did. We're in a state of fairly rapid decline, and if we don't bring someone in to arrest that decline soon, we could end up languishing in the lower part of SL (or worse) for years to come.

I don't buy all this 'it will take years to sort' guff, either. Yes, it might take years to get us to the same standard as Leeds/Saints/Wigan, but it would take only a competent coach and a couple more players to get us competing for the 4th, 5th and 6th spots. Even with the squad we have, a good coach should have us around 6th. Which is where a supposedly poor coach had us for two years running.

If any one of us goes to work and "has a bad day" we get sympathy, if that day becomes a week, we get a 1-1 and a chat about getting it together, if that week becomes a fortnight we get a final warning, and if that fortnight becomes a month, we get our P45, and rightly so.

So, Radford has won 5 from 14, so that is 5 good weeks and 9 bad weeks, I thought he said he'd walk if he wasn't up to it, maybe someone can tie his laces for him?