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Radford may as well stay; the chances are the next coach would be more of the same in one form or another so why bother? Let’s keep Radford and just have lower/more realistic expectations. You never know maybe one day one of the good coaches may have a momentary lapse of reason and/or gets desperate and gives us a go.

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Quote: Staffs FC "I couldn't care less whether Radford is moved out or not. What will stop me going very soon is the club's inability to employ half backs capable of running the game at this level. Put Burns and to a lesser extent Keating in our team today and we win. Simple.

I'm not setting out to diss either of our young halves but they must be two of the worst in the league - especially Miller. We don't need development halves we need established halves. Most of the halves I saw in the other games today were better than ours. Brown is no world beater but he's way better in class that ours. Horne has been slated for years for offering a kicking game like the one we had today but he's shot now as well. Getting Miller and Rankin in was the wrong choice of recruitment and it's costing us big time.

Change the coach - but get some halves otherwise we'll be here in another 12 games time on a new thread calling for the next one's head.'"


I have said a couple of times now, Hull FC should go all out to try sign Sam Powell from Wigan, this kid always rises to the occasion.
He was England Academy halfback when they flogged the Aussies, England Knights man of the match when they flogged Samoa, man of the match v NZ Warriors. Unfortunately he injured his ankle after that and is just coming back now.
The type of player you could a club around. Tough and a great defender, everything Miller isn't.

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Quote: Bombed Out "People don't mind the losing it is the manner.
We were never really in this game even with 13 men all we did was flatter to deceive.
There is no style or structure to our play. We either drive it up or pass from one side to the other with no dummy runners no 2nd receivers. Last time we were this poor and this debate caused such a rift between our fans was under Agar and that's currently what we look like, his team again.
I wanted Radford to be a success but it has just not happened. There is no improvement in play, no team development for the better on offer.
Sometimes a coach has to work with what he's got but he can't seem to get that extra out of them or get them to buy into his ethos whatever that is.
He has to maybe swallow his pride accept for now he's out of his depth and further develop himself as a coach either as an assistant or in the lower leagues as Cooke is doing.
I do want a change of coach I'm bored and fed up of what is being served up on the field and am becoming worryingly desensitized to it all where I'm questioning renewing my pass for next season and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
And again no need for the earlier insult to the other poster that was offside.'"

Excellent post which I agree with you 100%.

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Can't see where the improvement is going to come from to be honest.
Could live with defeats if you could see certain parts of our performances improving. To me we are going backwards at an alarming rate.
I'm just hearing the same comments as when Agar was in charge - it's the players fault, wait until Radfords signs his own players etc, etc.
People are at a point where we've had this for years on end and are walking away from the club, after finally having enough of it.
Our support over the last few years has been amazing, given how average we've been. People are walking away now though, and once that happens they invariably don't return.

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Why is it that every time we lose it's because we don't have half backs? Yesterday's loss was nothing to do with halves. Miller was much better than Keating and Burns only stood out because he puts himself about a bit.

The reasons we lost yesterday were that we switched off too often in defence, we made mistakes in our own half, we had a man sent off, and we didn't have the pace in the back line to make something of the chances we made. I actually thought we moved the ball pretty well and we did enough with the ball to win. I am far more concerned with our defence currently.

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Quote: V6Chuk "Radford may as well stay; the chances are the next coach would be more of the same in one form or another so why bother? Let’s keep Radford and just have lower/more realistic expectations. You never know maybe one day one of the good coaches may have a momentary lapse of reason and/or gets desperate and gives us a go.'"



I cant see AP lowering his expectations of becoming a team regularly been in the top4

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Quote: paintman "I cant see AP lowering his expectations of becoming a team regularly been in the top4'"


Looks like he's trying his hardest, don't you think?

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Our squad isn't performing as well as it should be. Part of that is undoubtedly down to individual performances from the players but a huge chunk is down to coaching IMO. The pre season worst case scenario with an inexperienced coach is coming home to roost. As much as he isn't a great coach IMO, we need an experienced head like noble at the club to put us on an even keel. I'm now at the stage where I think radford is doing more harm than good to the club

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Why is it that every time we lose it's because we don't have half backs? Yesterday's loss was nothing to do with halves. Miller was much better than Keating and Burns only stood out because he puts himself about a bit.

The reasons we lost yesterday were that we switched off too often in defence, we made mistakes in our own half, we had a man sent off, and we didn't have the pace in the back line to make something of the chances we made. I actually thought we moved the ball pretty well and we did enough with the ball to win. I am far more concerned with our defence currently.'"

Is burns that little fat psychopath half back,who hull fans thought was a joke ? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: deslawson "Is burns that little fat psychopath half back,who hull fans thought was a joke ? He is a joke. Take away every team's easy wins against us and rovers are 4th bottom

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Miller was ok yesterday gave two great passes out for two trys.

Lost the game because of individual errors and Crookes.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Why is it that every time we lose it's because we don't have half backs? Yesterday's loss was nothing to do with halves. Miller was much better than Keating and Burns only stood out because he puts himself about a bit.

The reasons we lost yesterday were that we switched off too often in defence, we made mistakes in our own half, we had a man sent off, and we didn't have the pace in the back line to make something of the chances we made. I actually thought we moved the ball pretty well and we did enough with the ball to win. I am far more concerned with our defence currently.'"

Spot on IMO.

Regardless of concerns about our halves - and there are legitimate concerns - they didn't cost us the game yesterday. Like you, I'm more concerned about our defensive frailties.

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Our defence has slipped massively. We started off poor, then hit a good spell and now are back to poor.
Granted been a man down yesterday didn't help, but I still wasn't feeling comfortable when we had a full team. Last season I had confidence when we were defending our line, this year there's just an expectation we're going to concede.

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Quote: Staffs FC "The halves aren't good enough.'"


The halves may not be good enough but radfords handling of them both has been p155 poor, constantly chopping and changing them hasn't helped and has probably had a detrimental effect on the pair of them.

Radford hasn't got a clue he's way out of his depth I reckon a half decent coach could get a lot more out of rankin and miller.

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Beginning of the season and with the signings we made lots said we'd be poor and indeed we are. TBh theres probably 4-5 decent players in the team and then a load of middle of the road dross that's all being made to look poor by some bottom drawer coaching.

The whole coaching team needs to go and a complete clean sweep. If that happened then I think people might have a little more patience but atm having Radford is just a continuation of constant failure weve had to endure since Agar

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