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| Quote: Sheldon "No.'"
That's that then!
Is there anyone that would be genuinely happy with Radford, Last and Crooke? (other than KR fans)
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| Quote: The Judge "Des Hasler. We need to push the boat so far off the shore this time and get a big fish.'"
You honestly think he'd leave Canterbury to come to Hull?
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| Regarding recruiting a proven top coach, everyone has their price.
IF Pearson doubled the coach's salary,for example, at least the coach would consider it.
At the end of the day, its a job - any head would be turned by a lucrative offer
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| What we need to do next is not take Radford and Cooke as coaches. Although im warming to Cooke a little more these days I do not want him anywhere near the club and as for Radford as coach well have people not learned from whats happened over the last seven years?
Were very much limited in playing personel now but coach is one area where, as a club, you can push the boat out and Pearson needs to make a statement of intent. Without it we'll be lucky to get in the eight next year though even with a new coach that may still be hard with Gentles appauling signings which are possibly even worse than Sharps imo
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| With the right coach, the players we have available should be good enough for top 6 and should be pushing for the top 4. With a bit more consistency we would have finished top 4 this season. No need to throw the baby out with the bath water but an inexperienced coach will struggle IMO
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[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: weaver93 "Regarding recruiting a proven top coach, everyone has their price.
IF Pearson doubled the coach's salary,for example, at least the coach would consider it.
At the end of the day, its a job - any head would be turned by a lucrative offer'"
I don't believe everyone does have a price.
Coaches like Bellemy, Bennett, Hasler are set up for life.
And doubling their salaries would be more than our cap.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "With the right coach, the players we have available should be good enough for top 6 and should be pushing for the top 4. With a bit more consistency we would have finished top 4 this season. No need to throw the baby out with the bath water but an inexperienced coach will struggle IMO'"
This. I know the temptation after Wembley and Thursday night is to bin off the majority of the squad, but we really weren't that far off finishing higher in the league this year.
Of course, if we end up with Radford then all bets are off.
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| Quote: Standee "Is that a reflection on the current game, too much structure, too many set moves, stifling invention and creativity, kids being too scared to make a mistake and just doing as coached?'"
Good grief I find myself agreeing with you here Standee. How FC ,and the game in general , needs a Mick Crane
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| Quote: meatpaste "Good grief I find myself agreeing with you here Standee. How FC ,and the game in general , needs a Mick Crane
Players like Brough, Chase and Tomkins are good, but they are not as "great" as they are made out to be, they are just inventive, it's getting to a stage where RL at the top level is as boring as chess to watch.
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| Quote: Standee "Players like Brough, Chase and Tomkins are good, but they are not as "great" as they are made out to be, they are just inventive, it's getting to a stage where RL at the top level is as boring as chess to watch.'"
As someone said on a previous thread,the game is becoming a war of attrition. Flair and inventiveness are nowhere to be seen .
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| Quote: Standee "Players like Brough, Chase and Tomkins are good, but they are not as "great" as they are made out to be, they are just inventive, it's getting to a stage where RL at the top level is as boring as chess to watch.'" It isn't just RL though.
A fair few modern pro sports have a lot of teams that spend as much time worrying what the opposition are doing then themselves.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Just tell teams not to bother with defence then.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "So...
If rumours are true, Radford will become the new head coach, supported by Lasty as assistant and Cooke in some capacity. We've signed Paea, Feka and Thompson and upgraded several young players' contracts, but lost size, experience and quality in outgoing players. There could be some disruption in the camp with Miller, DJ and McDonnell in particular having been close to Gentle. Fans understandably feel that this is the latest in many seasons ending in disappointment and bracing themselves for the onslaught of manic season pass PR.
I think we need some honest communications from AP about rationale for recruitment of both new coach and players, realistic targets for 2014, how near the cap we'll be, and to share more information about the academy - apparently more are going full time, how we're already seeing the benefits. I don't really mean a website article either, either a fans forum or full on interview.
It's in all our interests to see FC progress. But AP has to take us with him, or the chances of this happening are diminished. Leadership isn't all about fancy talk and ambition, it's about robust communication and humility where relevant. Hope we get some meaningful insight from him in the coming days.'"
That's why I wanted the club to instigate/organise a fans communication (forum or otherwise). It's important that the club do this rather than react to a fans' request though. Get as many there as possible (even in the stadium?) and broadcast it free live on FC TV with a stream that can cope. And I'd draw a line under problems with RH and attempt a new and inclusive arrangement with them hard as it might be to stomach.
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| Do you think it may cause problems now wth Miller Holdswortg and McDonnell as they all seem very pally with Gentle?
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| Quote: Sheldon "Just tell teams not to bother with defence then.'" Who mentioned no defence?
The point is that a fair bit of flair has been removed so everyone can fit in a nice box with a label.
As an example Paul Cooke was a game controlling 6 and Richard Horne was a running 7. You could argue that their numbers where the wrong way around but it worked for FC.
Pro sport has at least to a certain degree been sterilized and turned into a box ticking exercise.
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