It isn't helped by people clearly misunderstanding what the club puts out or just plain listening to voices in their heads.

Arundel is injury prone and looks like he'll struggle to ever put together a decent run of games without picking an injury up

think arundel will do ok for us, got a good step fair bit of pace, just needs a good run, think him and crooks are the 2 centre for hull next year with yeamo back up,

He showed some potential at Cas, and was worth a gamble as a signing. But the 4 year deal we gave him was absolute madness.

Crookes i feel is a good player. He has the speed, strength and can catch quite well..

His only problem is he's quite small.

I Feel he runs well with the ball, always runs hard and breaks few tackles. It's easy to judge him on a bad day but as previous posters have said. He ain't played many games and needs to play regulary before we see what he can do.

This. Very pleased with how Arundel was coming along before his unfortunate hand injury, defending well and scoring tries.

Not made proper judgement on Crookes yet. Briscoe's are big boots to fill, but he needs consistent game time to show his game. I would say its a tad unfair to give proper judgement with the little game time he has had.

Harsh on Crookes who did ok. Hard to judge him considering he hasn't had a run of games. Crooks was far worse at Wembley. Worst game I've ever seen him play.

agree, think people are looking for some one to blame, jason made one mistake, as did all the team, some loads, he saved ben from gifting wigan a try, kids got pace, runs very hard, he'll come good. slating players all the time does nothing, we say we have the best supporters, well some on here are pathetic, if its not westerman its jason, westerman was top tackler, who tackled his heart out, were getting to finals, 4 in 8 years, were getting their

We really haven't seen enough of him to judge him yet. Lets see what he's like once he gets a run of games.