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| Quote: PAUL M "If the Allam's are challening the club to break their silence/gagging order then does this suggest that they are confident in what will come out?'"
Call them what you will but lacking cofidence will never be one of them
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| Quote: Smiggs "What a loving mess this is.'"
Quite.
No chance of the status quo being restored now.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Call them what you will but lacking cofidence will never be one of them'"
Problem is that their confidence maybe justified in this case as reading between the lines the SMC agreement does favor FC compared to City.
This is all part of the plan of isolating the minority of FC fans to achieve the end goal.
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| Quote: frepneyboy "We were guaranteed income from bars at KC at the same level as what we got from Boulevard in our last season
It was in the original Richardson stuff'"
So all the time we were being told that we made no money from the concessions that was untrue? Or at least not quite true if we have a guaranteed flat income regardless of sales.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "Problem is that their confidence maybe justified in this case as reading between the lines the SMC agreement does favor FC compared to City.
This is all part of the plan of isolating the minority of FC fans to achieve the end goal.'"
Two points to bear in mind here:
1. The SMC has always been owned by the owners of City. Regardless of how good or bad the deal is, no money actually changes hands.
2. If the deal for City is that bad, why not change it? See point 1.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "Is this common knowledge, how do you know this.'"
When the SMC was set up, it had to be capitalised, this was at £2mill
Pearson, Wilkinson (the internet backer) and the Healey's were involved in the setup.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "The Allam's have played a blinder here. FC fans are now even starting to question FC and how they have managed the situation.'"
Divide and conquer, something I've witnessed first hand over the last 3 years or so.
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| Quote: Kosh "Quite.
No chance of the status quo being restored now.'"
I'll pay 300.00 so there pictures stay down, must have missed there concert too ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: Kosh "So all the time we were being told that we made no money from the concessions that was untrue? Or at least not quite true if we have a guaranteed flat income regardless of sales.'"
As i got told,
Say in the last year at Boulevard the club made £70k over the bars.
SMC would give us £70k "from the bars take"
Now if the bars are not taking enough to cover this then its their fault for charging £3.70 for a can of beer.
Rich said every meeting "we will have "AT LEAST" the same income as Boulevard, is guaranteed, we might get more, but never less"
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| Quote: frepneyboy "When the SMC was set up, it had to be capitalised, this was at £2mill
Pearson, Wilkinson (the internet backer) and the Healey's were involved in the setup.'"
I knew about Pearson and Wilkinson but wasn't aware of the Healey link. Is this common knowledge.
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| Quote: Kosh "Two points to bear in mind here
I know the SMC has always been owned by the owners of city, I have stated many times how stupid this is. It has always left the possibility of a conflict of interest that the council should never allow to happen.
The point I made about city getting a less favorable deal was in relation to a point somebody made about Pearson agreeing with the council then finding out what FC had agreed afterwards and being very unhappy at the disparity. Once in place this has always been a contract that the SMC and city have had to abide by regardless of the owners.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "The Allam's have played a blinder here. FC fans are now even starting to question FC and how they have managed the situation.'"
We have only heard one side of the story and then the Allams are changing their statements day by day. We still have to hear APs side of the story, so i for one will reserve judgement.
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| Quote: Hull White Star "Divide and conquer, something I've witnessed first hand over the last 3 years or so.'"
Initially I would have agreed with you, however I am now not so sure.
The uproar started earlier in the week as people noticed that the pictures had been removed, I suspect hundreds of e-mails were sent all over the shop (and quite rightly so), however it now transpires AP knew about this last summer &ordered the pictures of our great legend to be taken down over a few hundred quid.
I wonder if the same level of anger will be directed at AP for this decision ? will he be bombarded with hundreds of e-mails questioning why this has happened ?, I very much doubt it tbh.
We may not actually be the victims or the innocent party in all this, which is a worry thought tbh.
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| Quote: FCFaithful Stu "The Allam's have played a blinder here. FC fans are now even starting to question FC and how they have managed the situation.'"
We have only heard one side of the story and then the Allams are changing their statements day by day. We still have to hear APs side of the story, so i for one will reserve judgement.
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| Quote: F.C. Aces "We have only heard one side of the story and then the Allams are changing their statements day by day. We still have to hear APs side of the story, so i for one will reserve judgement.'"
Doesn't matter what he says, only FC fans will pay any attention to the fine detail. If you had a quick poll of 100 people in the city this morning you will probably find only the diehard FC fans among them will have any sympathy for us.
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