Some of us have been trying to tell you about your average signings, but you wouldnt listen.
Caught up in the season pass selling bluff and bluster.
Beli3ve.

Why are hull fans so convinced what pearson/gentle say is gospel? Like it or not other than ellis (whose injury I hope is not as bad as it seems) the signings promised did not arrive,holdsworth is solid,but the main need was a replacement for seymour and pearson and gentle admitted it yet they brought in several other signings 3 from rovers who according to this forum are rubbish,if they needed a signing from rovers it was dobbo,nobody else.But what to I know Iam a rovers fan,you were so smug after you lost the derby friendly,in gentle we believe etc,how couldn't you see the signs,you like us will be battling for places 5-9,sort of division 2 of superleague,yet pearson tells you top 2,top 4 etc and you believe.Get real.!

He's talking about the fans, as anyone with half a brain would have realised.

People need to calm down and look at the game and not the scorline. We matched Leeds for an hour with the majority of that defending our own line. When Heremia went for the 40/20 and it wasnt given that was the big game changer. Leeds scored 3 back to back tries then players started to drop of tackles. The main worry for me is our attack in the oppositions 30. We went well getting of our line and getting into a decent position for the kick but when we had a set of Leeds line we really struggled.

Seymour is getting alot of stick but imo peoples minds are already set on him. He did miss a couple of vital tackles in the last quarter but so did majority. The first half he defended really well againt Ablett which people forget. In attack Houghton was at fault for majority of the time DJ and Seymour got tackled in possesion. His passing was dreadful, above heads to the feet and to bothered about jumping outta the ruck. Crookes went really well and proved alot of people wrong me included.

just to put it into context for you suicidel hull fans i remember wigan going to headinley last season and smashing 50 past them remind which team ran out at old trafford ITS THE FIRST GAME FFS

Agree with that. As long as we don't have a confident general type scrum half the we have to have Heremaia on the field longer. He is our ONLY organiser and in the two games has posed the only threat. Houghton , apart from his effort which is unquestionable , is poor and just runs us in to trouble. His slow acting half play , poor passing and lack of vision mean that our average playmakers are getting the ball and man at the same time and look worse than they are. When Heremaia came on our tempo increased and for a short spell we got on the front foot.
Having said that , once again our forwards were bullied and we desperately missed our get out of jail play , ie , no Manu to get us out of our 40.

Ive being saying for a while, there is going to be a lot of disapointed hull fans this season, who where expecting great things.
But as last night proved we are so lacking in creativity and flair. We where so poor with ball in hand, slow and lacking any sort of ideas or leadership. You just canot see where the points are going to come from this season. last season everthing good came down our left with manu, yeaman, brisco, we aint got that now. you couldnt fault the teams effort for 50-60 mins but we looked so ordinary, it was very very disapointing.
If i was AP i would be very worried to be honest.

TBH i thought we did well getting out of our own half. A fair few times we were on our line and then got to a kick for a scrum on Leeds 10. I agree about Manu but in the oppositions line. We missed Moa and Manu our 2 impact players that lift the team and the crowd although the way some were talking around me 5 balls on the lotto they woud have complained they didnt win the jackpot.

Did we lose?

There has been far too much rubbish talked on here in the off season about us being challengers for the top 4. We lack speed and creativity in the halfs, our full back seems afraid of the ball and our right wing/centre combination is miles off those of the top teams.

Most important of all is our lack of size and aggression in the forwards. We were completely dominated in the forwards last night and were struggling to make yards with ball in hand whereas we seemed incapable of restriction leeds when they had the ball. We haven't replaced moa's size and aggression or manu's explosiveness and creativity.

We consistently get dominated in the ruck both with ball in hand and in defence and our game plan seems to be to try and outlast the opposition's bigger packs in a war of attrition. Unfortunately this only works when you're fitter than they are and last night we weren't by a long way.

We may get better as the side gets more used to each other but we really don't have the quality of player to challenge leeds, wire, saints and wigan when it really matters.

Another season of mediocrity

You have nailed it Jake!!!!

Not like you to be so upbeat.

I'm not sure you can judge a team on one game.

First of all, I though Leeds where excellent, there speed in attack and defence was first class, I don't think they will be far off winning SL again.

For l I thought we where poor, effort was good and defence good in parts,

Negatives

Let Leeds play the ball too fast
Too many offloads for Leeds.
Kicking, we must be worst kicking team in SL, at times it was embarrassing.
Our halfbacks looked like they had never played together, gentle must take some of the blame for it.
Forwards got bullied last night, which is a massive disappointment, the fact that Pitts and green where our best forwards speaks for itself.
Don't like picking players out but arundel must improve his defence, he was part at fault for 3 try's last night, sinfields, moons and halls.
Worst game I have seen Houghton play last night, looked much better with heremia on.

I wouldn't change much next week, maybe start heremia, but there's not else we can do with 3 main forwards out.

Not the end of the world, but work to be done, still expect us to finish 5th- 6th in the table.

Dear me, it was the first game,away at the champions who played very well, you were a match for them for 60 mins then they turned the screw. Surely you cant judge a team with 6new players on the first game? Im sure hull will be fine this season,it was only the first game after all,too early to judge how a season will go.apart from against us,good luck for the season.

No, you can, its what Hull fans do best.