Seymour had nothing to work with last night, he and Holdsworth were both poor. He tackled really well last night for most of the game.

Ellis had over 3months of rehab at wests, came back for about 5games, played 3 for England and probably done over 100 training sessions in the corresponding period. Think this is a case of massive freaky bad luck.

i feel sorry for our players theres a lot of pressure to deliver this season they were taught a lesson by 1 of the top four weve got to keep the faith people are talkin like our seasons over before its begun.

These people on here saying give Seymour more time,did they not support Hull last year,because if they did and went to all the matches like I did last year. you would of seen that he played the full season and in the majority of the matches he was rubbish,if you no anything about the game you must be able to see that he is slow,his distribution is slow,can't control a game,kicking is crap,doesn't take on the line and worst of all his one on one defense is appalling.

He needs to be shipped out to a championship club (he's had enough time to prove himself),use Horne or Heremaia to cover the scrum half position.

Agreed, it's amazing how many still believe he's going to come good. Poor players never come good and he's a poor player.

seymour didnt have a recognised 6 all last year thou and that made his job harder it needs time the spine of the leeds team are sinfield/burrows/mcguire and what was they like at the start dont write him off he is 1 of the best defending halfs in the super leagueit will click.

No he's not.

my opinion he caught burrows last night definite try if he hadnt because he would have coasted around mcdonnel who was to bothered what his hair looked like.

seymour tackled like a trojan last night, he missed a few at the end but think that was due to tiredness.still think we should give him a few more games imo

Shake head,please,go watch the recording again,his defense was appalling.

It's amazing what some see. Clueless.

Much vaunted by who, exactly?

Pack is better than it showed last night. To be fair watts Ellis n tickle should be in it. Big hole that.! That said whiting westy n galea needed to step up n didn't, were absolutely dire even. Think the front rowers went ok. Throw in a unbelievably bad Danny Houghton game and pack was weak. Would be surprised to see whiting n Danny back that up with such poor games so pack would be instantly better.

It is isnt it........some see him tackling like a trojan in 1st half...not missing any at all then leeds targeting a tiring player,who,when he got the ball from another slow and awful Houghton pass had sod all to do with it as leeds was in his face.

You do know Seymour is number 7, right?

Would love to see his stats for that game. Knock ons, penalties conceded, forward passes, tackles, missed tackles, missed passes, kicks. Is there anywhere you can read these? They aren't on the SL website.