Bagsy me to start:

Wire...moan for hours about a couple of quid

Hull FC charging Swiss prices for everything :-p

Hull KR
daylight
Wigan
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whoever is annoying at the time probably Leeds at the moment thanks to Ryan Bailey and the ignorant and arrogant fans amongst their number.

HKR is an obvious one but the extra contribution of Hudgell, one of the slimiest, small minded, petty, dishonest persons that has ever existed needs acknowledgement. For all the rivalry we have had with the dobbins you could always recognise previous team and board members as human beings (albeit misguided) and I was quite happy to drink in their pubs, etc. Hudgell I wouldn't pee on if he was on fire.

And talking of slippery individuals the only person close to Hudgell was Maurice Lindsay and the serial cheating he did at Wigan and then for them when he was at the RL. Add the arrogance, sense of entitlement and complete blindness to their cheating of the Wigan fans and they stand out.

Strangely with Leeds I had more dislike for them in the 80's and 90's when they bought everything and won nothing. Nowadays, though it pains me to say it, they are a very well run club who we could learn a few things from, especially regarding player development.

And yet no-one hates/dislikes Saints.

I never used to dislike Warrington but I do now because their fans now come across as really arrogant, a la Leeds and (to a lesser extent these days) Wigan. St Helens I don't perceive as arrogant - I think this is the differentiating factor.

Perhaps we come over to the Wakey fans as being arrogant with our sweeping dismissal of Agar. WE know why (and I personally feel very sorry for Wakey fans) but they don't - yet - and I think that's what's induced their current hatred of us.

Obviously I hate Rovers, but this is genetic passed on from my father and cultivated growing up in Threepenny. An anomaly.

Please do read my post again

If i wanted to refer directly to the antics of your lot id mention being convicted of a cowardly act of beating a man unconscious, then walking back to him and kicking him the head, then to avoid conviction and a spell in the big house he claimed he thought he was in "Afgan fighting for Queen and country again, he forgot where he was"

That worm has never seen service, it is an insult to the innocent thousands who have suffered defending our nation and paid a very heavy price. And not forgetting the countless families devastated by war.

So dumb dumb, please read my post again and realise that i dont like you lot, i was brought up nit to like you, but hate is a strong word, yes i'd love to see you close and the house of cards fall around Hudgills ears. But i dont hate you

I pity you

I think Saints aren't hated much because most people recognise that their achievements have been done in a mostly straightforward and open manner. No favourable SL decisions, no flagrant cap cheating (I know there were a couple of minor issues but they are hardly in Wigan or Wire's class) and no outrageous quota fiddles and dispensations. Add to that they play an attractive game and give British players a chance so their is little reason for dislike beyond obvious rivalry.

Show me anywhere an instance of Wire infringing the salary cap

and their fans are gracious in defeat and victory, if you ignore ROMMELL then St's are a great bunch of supporters, unlike the arrogant numpties from Wire and L**ds.

a simple link to your squad covers it, there's more sharp practice at Wire than any other club in the game, but you've just proved the arrogance point for everyone to read.

It is clear to see from your opening post that you clearly have an axe to grind with rovers - and wakefield, probably cos of the agar thing (?) - and your topic question is perfectly debatable, but the stuff you wrote is so pathetic and narrow minded.

And you believe, honestly, that all payments from Warrington are within the rules of the cap, totally above board, as I said, up to you, but it's clear to just about every other club in SL that there is something "interesting" about how you afford your squad under the cap rules.

It matters not to me, we tried cheating with drugs last season and still won nothing!