There is no evidence to support that Gleeson has depression, only hearsay and rumour on here. All I can see is a grown man who keeps getting himself into trouble one way or another.

That’s my concern. He seemed to be trying to get his together and resurrect his career then some idiot gives him a banned substance, he fails a drug test and the ensuing madness sends him right back to square one. Fighting depression is hard. If the actions of others have helped set him back in his fight then they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

There is no evidence to suggest that he hasn't, either. And for the record it's not only on here that rumours about his depression have surfaced.

I don't see that Gleeson has done anything 'wrong' in this latest episode other than to - naively as it turns out - trust that his fitness coach was competent at his job. He's not the first athlete to make that mistake and I doubt he'll be the last.

I thought the ruling said he didn't check with Cooper, he checked with Longy, and Longy was originally given the wrong information from Cooper.

Thoughts:
1) Fecking disgrace
2) Putting aside Rule's involvement, asa general point, FC invite trouble by retaining the likes of Cooke and Raynor after transgression and signing player after player with "form" - Tansey, Reardon, Gleeson, Long, Aspinwall, Seymour. We should not be surprised that we are continually linked with this sort of thing when some of the participants are known risks. One would hope this is taken as a learning by McRae and Pearson, but the fact Aspinwall's on their watch suggests this hasn't happened yet.
3) In some circumstances this sort of thing is "justified" or "explained" by the huge pressure on individuals to deliver in marginal sporting circumstances, like an Olympic sprint final, for example. FC haven't troubled the top teams for 4 seasons and showed no sign of doing so before or during Gleeson's time at the club. Rule is not only guilty of deception, but utter stupidity to risk his career over a knackered player who wouldn't influence FC's performance or finishing position one way or the other. Personally I would have thought he'd have protected himself better and it surprises me that he didn't.
4) Thank goodness for Adam Pearson's takeover. Can you imagine going into 2012 with Kath and Agar still at the helm, a massive (probably unpayable) tax bill and then this emerging. In this context we're lucky the club still exists.

Hull's statement, Gleeson was charged on June 9th, based on Gleeson's activity from then (Longy's twitter) I have a hard time believing this.

CLUB STATEMENT
By Laura Smith | Thursday, 23 June 2011
Hull FC can confirm that Martin Gleeson has not been sacked.

On Friday 10 June Hull FC granted Martin leave because of a stress related illness. The club ask that the media respect his right to privacy at this difficult time. There will be no further comment from the player or the Club.

Not sure what you’re getting at re the comments about twitter and don't want too assume. Care to explain?

Longy was posting about various activities with his mate Gleese, going to concerts, bars, clubs etc.

What he said. Unlucky Mr Rule

What it has also done, unfortunately, is drag Hull FCs name through the mud. Makes you wonder who else knew about it....

He didn't check directly with Cooper but used a supplement he had been assured had been cleared by him. At the end of the day the information came from Cooper, albeit via a second party, and if he HAD asked Cooper he'd have received the same duff response. I'm not sure that UKDA would have made a distinction, which makes it all the more stupid to have concocted the story that he'd checked direct. AFAIK the anti-doping agencies consider all third-party information the same way and have placed ultimate responsibility on the athletes themselves to ensure that the information they receive is correct.

And Gary Speed was out laughing & joking with his mates the day before he hung himself.

Spot on Kosh we go to our Doctor's and we put our trust in them ..They give us Drug's and other medicine and we take it ..For some people to say about his depression there are signs and symptoms, you know what to look for when you have had first hand experience ..But till then people should know better then saying he didn't suffer with depression ..We never dealt with him on a day to day basic

Why?

Wigan wasnt docked points when Hock was on cocaine,Sts wasnt when Cunningham got done.

Thank god that bleeding board has gone.

You don't think the timing is a bit of a coincidence ?