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| Quote: Hutchie "Quite easy to contradict yourself aint it'"
How's that a contradiction?
There's a difference between making ends meet and bettering yourself.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "As is said earlier in the thread, if people tried to better themselves they wouldn't have to work that many hours to make ends meet.
I don't see the problem in subsidizing students £40-60 because they choose to go on to further education to better themselves instead of going straight into work. These are potentially our future Doctor's, surgeons, nurses, accountants, Solicitors etc.'"
That is complete bollox. There are people with quals as long as your arms working in industries that they shouldnt be in , just because of the way the whole jobs market works and many other factors. Some people come out of work and have to grab any job they can, then get stuck on the treadmill and can never find a way off.
You then also get a whole bunch of graduates who get the degrees but cant handle the jobs they go into.
And what percentage of grads go into the health sector?? probably a very low one
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "How's that a contradiction?
So a 'family man' who works full time plus and ends up with similar disposable income to a student.
Who deserves the subsidy?
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| Quote: Hutchie "So a 'family man' who works full time plus and ends up with similar disposable income to a student.
Who deserves the subsidy?'"
What disposable income would a student have? Especially now the government have abolished the Educational Maintenance Allowance.
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| Quote: Hutchie "That is complete bollox. There are people with quals as long as your arms working in industries that they shouldnt be in , just because of the way the whole jobs market works and many other factors. Some people come out of work and have to grab any job they can, then get stuck on the treadmill and can never find a way off.
You then also get a whole bunch of graduates who get the degrees but cant handle the jobs they go into.
And what percentage of grads go into the health sector?? probably a very low one'"
Don't disagree with anything there, really. But that's not what this is about, this is about a student getting a £40-60 subsidy on a season pass. The student has to be studying full time which is about 20 hours I think. You also can't group all students together either, some have far differing personal lives.
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[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "While he's at college for potentially 30 hours a week? Then the home study aspect of it. Seems a bit unreasonable to me.
Our students should be subsidized imo, why not? Now with all the tuition fees that Labour first introduced and the Tories are now increasing, they're hardly sponging off the state now, are they?'"
Are you serious?
Everybody I know who's gone on to higher education has had a job.
30 hrs a week? Fuck me I'm surprised he can get to the rl he should be in bed.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Are you serious?
Everybody I know who's gone on to higher education has had a job.
30 hrs a week? love me I'm surprised he can get to the rl he should be in bed.'"
Nobody, including you, has given any reason as to why students shouldn't get a subsidy on season passes, considering they can't work a full time job due to college/Uni commitments.
Again, people want to punish people that want to better themselves. And again people who haven't even been to Uni wish to pass judgement on every single student. Pathetic.
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| Quote: Hutchie "That is complete bollox. There are people with quals as long as your arms working in industries that they shouldnt be in , just because of the way the whole jobs market works and many other factors. Some people come out of work and have to grab any job they can, then get stuck on the treadmill and can never find a way off.
You then also get a whole bunch of graduates who get the degrees but cant handle the jobs they go into.
And what percentage of grads go into the health sector?? probably a very low one'"
NHS is the 4th highest employer in the world..(Chinese Army, Indian Railway, Walmart are the ones above). Nurses have had to be University educated for several years most going to University to do a diploma, from 2015 nurses have to have a degree, answering your question how many grads go into health sector, if you take a University which has a health school (Hull for example) there will be approximatley 300 graduates studying nursing each cohort, no other degree course has anywhere near these figures, plus medical students find it difficult to find part-time work to subsidise their money as they spend 50% of their time on placement working long hours without pay.So I would say a very high percentage of grads go into healthcare.
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| Always amuses me when people talk of 'having to do a job they don't like to support a family' etc, as if they had no choice about having children in the first place.
Fair play to MM for furthering her education, whatever people say, degrees are no walk in the park and if she's in a position to do another one then good luck to her!
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "Always amuses me when people talk of 'having to work to support a family' etc, as if they had no choice about having children in the first place.
Fair play to MM for furthering her education, whatever people say, degree's are no walk in the park and if she's in a position to do another one then good luck to her!'"
Thanks Gary....I did my first degree whilst I worked full-time and had all 3 of my children to support, plus I paid for it with no subsidy, I managed to do my first degree whilst working full time as I would get up for work at 4.30am and work until 13.00, I also did that degree over 5 yrs, so it was a long hard slog! As this degree is if funded by the NHS I do not have to pay, however I walked away from a 23k a year job so saving a few quid on a season pass will help, although 2 of my children are now independent we support our youngest through college and we will also support him through Uni...Hubby will be stressed the year after next when he has 2 of us at Uni to support
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| I'll be a student from September hopefully, cheaper pass!!!
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Regards,
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Nobody, including you, has given any reason as to why students shouldn't get a subsidy on season passes, considering they can't work a full time job due to college/Uni commitments.
Again, people want to punish people that want to better themselves. And again people who haven't even been to Uni wish to pass judgement on every single student. Pathetic.'"
Who said anything about a ft job? Mine was a response to someone who's kid didn't qualify for a discount anymore.
A season pass/beer/holidays/designer clothes are luxury items, if you want one earn more money or spend less on other luxaries.
I don't even think students 'should' get a discount but can see why they do.
And sorry about the late response I was at uni after a hard days work, but as I'm a international student not only do I not get subsidies I have tuition fees that have to be paid up front! So un fair, boo hoo.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Who said anything about a ft job? Mine was a response to someone who's kid didn't qualify for a discount anymore.
A season pass/beer/holidays/designer clothes are luxury items, if you want one earn more money or spend less on other luxaries.
I don't even think students 'should' get a discount but can see why they do.
And sorry about the late response I was at uni after a hard days work, but as I'm a international student not only do I not get subsidies I have tuition fees that have to be paid up front! So un fair, boo hoo.'"
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| Quote: Garry Brindley Esq. "Always amuses me when people talk of 'having to do a job they don't like to support a family' etc, as if they had no choice about having children in the first place.
Fair play to MM for furthering her education, whatever people say, degrees are no walk in the park and if she's in a position to do another one then good luck to her!'"
Is the correct answer.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Or they could get a job?
I've never met a student who can't afford a pint.'"
It's that easy to get a job for a student is it? I went to Uni in Leeds were there are over 80,000 students. Surprisingly, there are not that many job vacancies.
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