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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Why conduct the survey at all? It wasn't even open a week!!!
According to Mr Pearson the majority returned wanted to switch back to Sunday, maybe he felt there was no need to wait any longer and made the decision accordingly.
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Makes sense that Allam wants you to play the day after the football as opposed to the day before'"
Quite!
It"ll cause less problems for City in the Premier league next year.
However all is not lost I"m sure our new coach will soon have us screaming up the table.
Then Sky will want us on every week.
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Money!
More away fans are likely to travel on a Sunday.'"
I don't disagree, but some on here are paiting AP as some kind of charlatan who's coming in to rob us all blind, people go on about giving players and coaches a chance and yet many (who I would wager have never spoken to AP at any leghth) are already doubting his motives.
and, for ehfcf et al, when (if) AP does something wrong then I'll be the first to criticise, as yet, he's done nothing wrong in my opinion.
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| Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Perhaps. It's a rapid turnaround though.'"
Welcome to the Internet age.
TBH without knowing how many surveys were sent out it's difficult to judge. Bear in mind that the number of fans registered with The Grapevine is likely to be a relatively small fraction of the total fanbase, and will also tend to comprise people who will respond quickly to this kind of thing.
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| Quote: Greavsie "According to Mr Pearson the majority returned wanted to switch back to Sunday, maybe he felt there was no need to wait any longer and made the decision accordingly.'"
Just another example of the loutish minority making more noise than the silent majority.
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| Quote: Kosh "If he had other motives would it not have made sense to wait until after the survey closed so as not to attract suspicion? Possibly he already had a fair idea of the way the wind was blowing before the survey was sent out and the response so far has been so overwhelmingly in the same direction that waiting for the survey to end isn't necessary?
Think I'll keep an open mind on this one.'"
Why announce it early at all? Unless you have to. He must have needed to as by making the decision this early he's opened himself up to similar criticism the old regime received by not consulting fully.
If Kath had done this there'd be uproar on here. I'm worried AP isn't understanding fully why attendances are dropping.
It helps me playing on a Sunday, but I'd much rather the players were consulted about the fact they'll have to go to places like Wigan, Saints & Leeds on a 5 day turnaround.
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| Quote: Kosh "Welcome to the Internet age.
Yes, I agree with the demographic of the grapevine fans been 'die hard' fans and returning the surveys quickly. Which to me suggests they're the wrong people to ask if you're going to survey only one set of supporters. Many of the people signed up to the grapevine would go watch Hull FC if they played at 3AM on a Thursday.
We switched to Friday nights in 2007. In 2006, despite coming off the back of a CC win and being in a huge winning streak, we only had an average attendance of 9,010. In 2007, after switching to Friday nights, we had an average attendance of around 10,000. Just don't understand this one at all
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| Quote: Standee "I don't disagree, but some on here are paiting AP as some kind of charlatan who's coming in to rob us all blind, people go on about giving players and coaches a chance and yet many (who I would wager have never spoken to AP at any leghth) are already doubting his motives.
and, for ehfcf et al, when (if) AP does something wrong then I'll be the first to criticise, as yet, he's done nothing wrong in my opinion.'"
Do you have any presentable evidence for your claims that people are "painting him as a charlatan out to rob us blind"?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Why announce it early at all? Unless you have to. He must have needed to as by making the decision this early he's opened himself up to similar criticism the old regime received by not consulting fully.
If Kath had done this there'd be uproar on here. I'm worried AP isn't understanding fully why attendances are dropping.
It helps me playing on a Sunday, but I'd much rather the players were consulted about the fact they'll have to go to places like Wigan, Saints & Leeds on a 5 day turnaround.'"
whilst you do have 5 day turn arounds you also get 9 day turn arounds so its swings and roundabouts which do equal out during a season
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| Quote: Greavsie "whilst you do have 5 day turn arounds you also get 9 day turn arounds so its swings and roundabouts which do equal out during a season'"
One would suggest that the advantage of a 9 day turnaround to play the *lesser* teams of Wakefield etc.. is not needed. We do it fine now, it's playing Wigan/Leeds/Saints that present us with massive problems.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Why announce it early at all? Unless you have to. He must have needed to as by making the decision this early he's opened himself up to similar criticism the old regime received by not consulting fully.
If Kath had done this there'd be uproar on here. I'm worried AP isn't understanding fully why attendances are dropping.
It helps me playing on a Sunday, but I'd much rather the players were consulted about the fact they'll have to go to places like Wigan, Saints & Leeds on a 5 day turnaround.'"
I think he announced it 'early' because it's been a big talking point, he'd already mentioned that they were looking at it, and the majority of survey returns were in favour. Announcing as early as possible gives people plenty of time to adjust to the idea before passes go on sale and also means that the club can start planning for it right away. In other words - why wait?
And if you read the article in full it's abundantly clear that the change to Sundays is just one part of an overall strategy to try and increase crowd numbers...
Quote: east hull FC fan "“The gates have been disappointing over the last year or so and we have to look at a number of things to get them back up to where we want them to be and where they should be.
“Whenever we are not televised next season we will be playing Sunday at 3pm and we will see if that can make a difference.”
Whilst there will always be pros and cons of both Friday and Sunday fixtures specific to each individual, Pearson believes a change is necessary to make Hull FC fixtures as accessible as possible to as many fans as possible, including away supporters.
He said, “From my point of view, Friday night rugby has limited some travelling support as well as perhaps families who would like to attend games, while on a personal note I’m not sure it’s the best day to play rugby league in the summer.
“Sunday’s will be an exciting change for us and will hopefully boost numbers in the ground. We’ll be encouraging families to the games and to enjoy all aspects of a game day at the KC Stadium.”
The review of Sunday rugby league will go much further than just a change in kick off time with a look at match day entertainment and events as well as game day hospitality, including the opportunity for families to enjoy an affordable Sunday lunch at the rugby like a roast carvery.
However, despite all these areas of improvement Pearson is keen to maintain his focus on value for money and improving the rugby on show.
“It’s obviously got to run in conjunction with winning rugby matches, which remains a priority, and in conjunction with better value for money on ticket prices, but with improvements in all areas we will look to get gates back up.'"
Hence I'll be keeping an open mind on this.
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| He can't win really can he , some people want friday some want sunday
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| Is there still a market on a Sunday, if so how about the parking.
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| I don't think Pearson is under any illusion as to why the attendances are down, especially if the amount of people on here who said they have put their comments re our current coach as a reason not to renew.
Friday / Sunday is one that will never please everyone and there will unfortunately be winners and losers same as when we changed from Sundays to Fridays originally.
He wont just be changing for the sake of it he will have no doubt looked back to what the club did when it played Sundays etc and formulated his plans on what he believes is the best way forward and the majority of fans surveys returned so far have probably unanimously backed up his plans.
He has come out and actually told us early and the reason why, he could after all of just waoted till the survey was done then just fed us a line like the old BOD but he hasn't he has been open and upfront.
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| Strange they have announced it early as the Survey is not supposed to close till the 5th of September.
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