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Felt really sorry for them, but at the end of the day it takes more than 2000 people to keep a SL club going.
That's not the fault of those passionate fans, but perhaps of the RL for selling them an impossible dream. They deserved much better than this.
At the end of the day, the RL has got to stop ploughing money into doomed expansion projects. NOT ONE of them has worked.
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| Quote: TrevLovesJanice "At the end of the day, the RL has got to stop ploughing money into doomed expansion projects. NOT ONE of them has worked.'"
Catalans? |
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| All fans were a credit to our Club 
..... except one pi$$ed up tool who was flicking the Vs to the Cru fans every opportunity he got! Fans like him we do not need! |
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| Quote: GM1 "All fans were a credit to our Club ![]()
He sounds like a complete and utter prick.
I may of not seen your post but did you get chance to speak to AP with regards to RA and have the opportunity to express your frustrations?
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| Quote: GEvans75 "He sounds like a complete and utter prick.
I may of not seen your post but did you get chance to speak to AP with regards to RA and have the opportunity to express your frustrations?'"
Ha! No, he came in, waved and said hello and went back to the 'staff area'. I was sat next to Sir Jonny who, when asked about RA, said he had to go asap for the good of the club. The vibe i got from him was that he'd told AP the same too! |
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| Quote: GM1 "Ha! No, he came in, waved and said hello and went back to the 'staff area'. I was sat next to Sir Jonny who, when asked about RA, said he had to go asap for the good of the club. The vibe i got from him was that he'd told AP the same too!'"
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| Quote: Standee "Catalans?'"
They were already in existence.
How about these other great ideas ?? :
Paris St Germain
Gateshead
Mansfield/Nottingham
Carlisle
Cardiff (1950s)
Cardiff/Bridgend (1980s)
South Wales (1996)
Scarborough Pirates
Liverpool/Huyton/Highfield/Runcorn etc
Kent Invicta/Southend
Chorley/Lancashire Lynx
If you wanted to be really subjective you could possibly say that the post-war expansion into Cumbria(Whitehaven and Workington), Doncaster and Blackpool (already gone) hasn't produced top clubs longer term. Neither have Sheffield Eagles or the perennial London experiments (currently 2 struggling clubs)
Expansion doesn't work, yet it seems to be able to attract ridiculous amounts of money into the bottomless pit ! |
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| Quote: wolfie "nice touch
Do you think it was Tansey who contacted Agar about our supporters? 
Whoever it was, may be they're after a contract?
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rlPress release for Cru future plansrl
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| Quote: Pookie "rlPress release for Cru future plansrl'"
lets just hope an uppety chairman with small club syndrome doesn't block you.
all the best, be good to have a strong Crusaders in the championship, especially when you're getting bigger crowds than Wakey! |
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| Quote: Pookie "rlPress release for Cru future plansrl'"
Great news and really hope the Wrexham public come out and support them |
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| Quote: TrevLovesJanice "They were already in existence.
How about these other great ideas ??
So apart from Crusaders what bottomless pits of money are being flung about by the RFL? Care to produce some facts?
The problem is trying to expand/promote too quickly which is the fault of the RFL rather than a club or the area it is in.
How long did it take for some clubs to become properly established in the past, there was little else in some cases for people to do or watch. Now in times when there is much more competition for people's money and other things for people to do it is harder and harder to get that slice to get up the rung.
However you seem to ignore the fact that rugby league is alive & kicking in all 4 corners of the UK, teams & leagues that have been on a summer season for years! We have a National Conference going from strength to strength with teams from Hertfordshire, Wales and Coventry doing just fine, below that the conference Premier that reaches from Scotland to West of England & to Suffolk & Essex and Regional teams that stretch all the way to Devon.
It's narrow mindedness that will just want the game to stay in the North, then it will stay just as a minority sport & be viewed upon as quaint & insignificant. We would never get national recognition and you'll be happy with that I'm sure.
I was volunteering at a RL festival at my club in St.Albans recently and to see hundreds of little kids as young as 7 from London & the South travelling nearly 100 miles to play TGG just brings home how important expansion is.
RL IS a great sport and has something about it that most sports cannot reproduce. To want to curb that to the traditonal heartlands in just utterly ridiculous.
I actually feel sorry for you.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "So apart from Crusaders what bottomless pits of money are being flung about by the RFL? Care to produce some facts?
The problem is trying to expand/promote too quickly which is the fault of the RFL rather than a club or the area it is in.
How long did it take for some clubs to become properly established in the past, there was little else in some cases for people to do or watch. Now in times when there is much more competition for people's money and other things for people to do it is harder and harder to get that slice to get up the rung.
However you seem to ignore the fact that rugby league is alive & kicking in all 4 corners of the UK, teams & leagues that have been on a summer season for years! We have a National Conference going from strength to strength with teams from Hertfordshire, Wales and Coventry doing just fine, below that the conference Premier that reaches from Scotland to West of England & to Suffolk & Essex and Regional teams that stretch all the way to Devon.
It's narrow mindedness that will just want the game to stay in the North, then it will stay just as a minority sport & be viewed upon as quaint & insignificant. We would never get national recognition and you'll be happy with that I'm sure.
I was volunteering at a RL festival at my club in St.Albans recently and to see hundreds of little kids as young as 7 from London & the South travelling nearly 100 miles to play TGG just brings home how important expansion is.
RL IS a great sport and has something about it that most sports cannot reproduce. To want to curb that to the traditonal heartlands in just utterly ridiculous.
I actually feel sorry for you.'"
No need to feel sorry for me.
I actually coach at amateur level so am well aware of the health of the game at grassroots level thanks.
The efforts to establish new clubs at professional level have been a total failure and I stick by that claim. Sorry that you weren't able to spot that from the list of clubs I gave ! |
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| Quote: TrevLovesJanice "They were already in existence.
How about these other great ideas ?? [sizeExpansion doesn't work, yet it seems to be able to attract ridiculous amounts of money into the bottomless pit 
