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| The main problem evident from the fans' reaction last night is that some, even a majority, are happy to 'run Wigan close and "unluckily" lose'.
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| Quote: hull2524 "just for the record i think he should go, just that a few on here seem to moan whatever we do or play,'"
I think it's happens a lot more when we lose. There was a distinct lack of moaning when we beat Salford.
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| Just got to hope that Pearson is a lot sharper than many people and can see what the OP said. It's been pretty clear for at least two seasons to anyone with eyes and a brain that Agar wasn't up to assembling a squad capable of competing at the top and far less able to coach at this level. All the rubbish about "nearly fourth" last season and injuries and not his team etc was easilly seen through yet many believed it. Hopefully now that AP's attention will have been firmly on watching FC's performances he'll recognise what needs to be done.
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| Quote: hull2524 "just a point, if agar does go, what will some people moan about then?'"
How long have you got?
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| At least Pearson looked a bit pi55ed off with the performance, can't see him suffering fools for a long time..
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| Quote: hull2524 "just a point, if agar does go, what will some people moan about then?'"
McNamara.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "McNamara.
Look ,thats not funny,don`t you think we have all suffered enough?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "McNamara.
Isn't mentioning that word a banning offence?.
Some things just arent funny!
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Isn't mentioning that word a banning offence?.
Some things just arent funny!
When we thought Agar would get the push at the start of the season, I was very much in the camp of retaining Agar if McNamara was the alternative; it was suggested he was very much favoured by our outgoing board. I now think they are equally compelling options.
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| Ultimately Agar is the problem. No one wants to see anyone lose a job but for three seasons now Hull have not developed as a team. Costly errors, poor defence, poor attack and crazy game plans. Looking at the top teams, Wig, Warr, Hudds, Cat, Saitns and even Cas - all have Aussie coaches, who are Aussie cast offs or unproven in the NRL. Leeds were a good team with McClenan and champions. Now with McDermott are average (and still beat Hull) Warrington with Lowes were poor - Smith comes in and look at the change. Catalan's with Robinson have improved significantly. Huddersfield under Brown have made significant improvements. Cas are developing well too under Matterson. Saints hampered by injuries under Simmons but still up there and competitive week after week. Kear won a challenge cup. Sharp got Hull on an unbeaten run of 19 (i think) and got Hull to GF. Both sacked for far less than what Agar has achieved.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I don't know about that because I don't know what was said. But a large part of his job is to promote the club and portray everything as rosy. So I would completely expect him to regurgitate the thoughts of the board to both support the club as doing the right thing, and to present a harmony of thinking amongst everyone. Pearson has already almost categorically stated that the last point is not true.
I don't for certain, in the same way that you don't know for certain that it has. He's not a shareholder, so was likely to have little say in the coaching appointment or the subsequent job security of it. I don't therefore see how he could affect on-field performance.'"
Like you say, neither of us knows the truth of the situation so either view could be true, however rule has certainly danced to the board's tune for 4 years or so now so he was either in agreement or kept it shut for his own reasons.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Like you say, neither of us knows the truth of the situation so either view could be true, however rule has certainly danced to the board's tune for 4 years or so now so he was either in agreement or kept it shut for his own reasons.'"
Totally agree. I'm staying open to the concept that he may not truly think the coach is unimportant because I would expect expect him to dance to his employers' tune even if he disagreed, but the rumours this season of him looking to leave suggest he wasn't happy with something that was going on. Could well be the coaching situation which is beginning to undermine everything else at the club that is successful and which he appears to have played his part in achieving.
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| Someone overheard a conversation last night:
AP - Do we need a new coach Jim?
JR - No, we were 10 minutes from 4th place last season with a stack of injuries. Give him his own squad and an injury free season and he'll do the double
AP - Nice one. Good to have someone on board who really know and understands the game
Probably
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Someone overheard a conversation last night
Pearson isn't that naive.
The only thing that will stick in his mind though is his sacking of Brian Little all those years back. Little did a miraculous job getting pennyless Hull City (who hadn't paid their players for months) to the playoffs just before the Pearson takeover. Pearson then came in and spent loads of money completely re-vamping the squad, but the new players actually did worse than the previous bunch and Little was promptly sacked.
When he sold City Pearson admitted it was his biggest regret during his time at the club, and that he had wrecked the dressing room atmosphere by changing the squad so quickly and drastically.
Which is why he is making statements that he won't review Agar's position until the end of the season.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Someone overheard a conversation last night
Pearson will do his own homework, he hasn't bought the club to take any old advice. He has already said we need to aim higher. He was never going to just come in and sack the coach.
What worries me is who is advising him with regards to RL?
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