Strange how quoting part of a message takes it out of all context isn't it.

Desperate times, desperate measures

I agree that our performances over the past few years have not met our expectations but I don't buy into the 'It’s all Agar's fault' argument.

Look, i've been supporting Hull all my life and I really want them to succeed. I just have a different view on how this can achieved.

I’m not a rugby league expert and therefore take the opinions of coaches and players quite seriously. So when coaches and players are backing Agar as the right man then I feel that we need to give him more time to succeed. I know it’s not a popular opinion on these forums but to me stability is vital for success.

We have over 10,000 regular attendees to home games so not everyone is going to agree on the best way forward. Just don’t shoot people down when they disagree with the general consensus on these forums.

When have you ever seen players go public with negative views of coaches? Or when have you seen other managers be negative about other managers? I have seen coaches back a coach in trouble and then take their job when they get sacked.
It is called looking after your own interests. If a player comes out against Agar and he doesn't go then they will be vilified by him. A coach backs another coach knowing full well that if the same thing happens to them then that coach will then back them publicly.

I'd love to see a combined league table, from the start of 2009 to today

I reckon we'll be bottom half (and we will have scored the least of all 14 teams)

suits the intellect

You see here we go again. People are desperate to believe that the players agree with people on this forum. It's just not the case. O'Meley gave a natural reaction after the match in support of Agar.

Back in the days of John Kear, it was clear that players didnt agree with him. Remember the rumours. Kearney refusing to take a second year with Kear in charge. Swain refusing to play. Blacklock left out of the team. I like many wanted Kear out of the club. We ended up with Sharp who had initial success then tried to fundamentally transform the team. It was a disaster that we are only just recovering from. Changing the coach does not always give you your desired result.

Not saying the players agree with the view of a lot, I am just pointing out that you can take nothing from a player publicly backing a coach either.

One player out of 15 reacted!....
Rumours are strive about a split camp, Orgre & Fitz are playing out of their skins and clearly back the coach, Horney is black & White through and through and will play his heart out whoever coaches the team, however a lot of players are not hitting their straps this season Tickle & Manu to name two, also Moa hardly gets on the pitch strange one that! My point is who knows if the full team back him or not, it may well be just spin.

dont think radford was happy about his stint vs the rhino's either......

Does anyone think that the lack of 1st team pre-season games has contributed to us starting slowly this year?

Only 1 less than last year and same as the year before when we started well so dont think it is relevant.

My friend who was with the gang with the banner says that tom briscoe stuck his thumb up to the banner behind the back of all the other players....not saying that's the truth only what my friend said but I have no reason not to believe him!