Turner
Sharp
Whiting
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Obst
Radford
Houghton
O'Meeley
Tickle
Fitz
Westerman

Moa
Lauaki
Manu
Washy

That's my team not Agar's! Not read the match report, heard lots of good reports about Newton so why not try him, cas did it with a young hooker on Saturday. Williams might not be a bad shout as the season goes on if we get injuries.

2 and 3 are too weak in defence. Turner, stop skipping. You need both legs to move.

So if you was head coach at Hull, after starting the season 0 from 2 and being out classed in both games and under massive pressure from the fans to leave the club, you would respond by putting Fitz on the bench as a prop and play Washy at 13? And play Westerman at 6 even though he has never really played there in Super League and has produced his best form at 13?

Achilles ,according to the radio.

Fitz from the bench would be a good move and as a prop would be even better. He won't have to play the full 80 minutes which would mean he wouldn't become a penalty machine like he has done recently.

Well it depends on injuries. If I were the coach Westerman would have played 13 from the start and Fitz as a bench prop. Fitz plays like a prop so it makes sense to have him and O'Meely seperated so at least one of them is on the pitch at the same time and we don't also flog Fitz to death.

I am only playing Westy at 6 as I don't want Briscoe and Sharp one the same wing together. Washy's best games have come at 13 as that is what he is a 13.

With a fully fit side I would have

Phelps
Sharp
Whiting
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
O'Meeley
Houghton
Radford
Manu
Tickle
Westerman

Fitz
Moa
Lauaki
Obst

So what's your problem exactly?

I just can't see the logic in not starting Fitz. I agree that he needs to be spelled, but don't understand why people think he is a prop.He has never played prop in the NRL, so why would he become a prop now. He used to play 2nd row but has lost his pace now, so he plays 13 because of his work ethic and ability to lead by example. Playing 13 allows him to play in the middle and not on the edge like 2nd rows do. Also he is the captain so why have him on the bench if he is fit.

Fitz has played as an extra prop for the last two seasons.

Penalty machine??? 2 pens in 2 games.

But that is his game, he is a workhorse.

But that is the problem, in his head he is a workhorse, but the reality he isn't anymore. He was falling off/not completing tackles after 60 minutes last week, no fault of his own.

That is because he is being flogged to death by Agar

Yet he has a bench full of forwards some who he leaves on the bench until the 2nd half then decides to play them for 14 mins...it is completely unbelievable it really is

Yea agree with him missing tackles. He has missed 7 in 2 games and last season he missed 26 in 20 games. I would spell him as a 13, but have Westerman more involved in our attack once we are in there half. When Fitz is off the pitch play Westerman at 13. Fitz does loads of graft in defence and that is why I would keep him at 13 in the opening exchanges of the game.

Correct, the problem is Agar believes he is still and 80 minute workhorse but sadly he is not, and his tiredness leads to mistakes.