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| Signed!, also linked to my Facebook and emailed the link to fellow FC fans.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Whats it matter if people swear? We are passionate about our club and some people are rather annoyed at the the way its being run and that comes out on the petition. Doesnt make it any less valid and if, and its a massive if, it makes any differnece im sure the powers that be wont be reading individual comments but more looking at the numbers that are against Agar'"
Personally, I don't have a problem with swearing. But there's a time and a place for it. When a petition is being submitted to the board of directors, it will be very easy to dismiss it out of hand if it's full of the sort of comments that are appearing on this one. Why should the club give any credence to a document that calls one of its employees a 'c***'?
In my view, such a petition and the comments it contains should appear to have been fully considered by the signatories and ought to be a measured response to the situation we find ourselves in. Sending a load of bile and vitriol to the club totally undermines the validity of the argument on the opening page.
I appreciate your view is different, I'm just giving mine: if those comments stay, it will end up in the bin. It might well end up there anyway, but it certainly will if they're not removed.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Personally, I don't have a problem with swearing. But there's a time and a place for it. When a petition is being submitted to the board of directors, it will be very easy to dismiss it out of hand if it's full of the sort of comments that are appearing on this one. Why should the club give any credence to a document that calls one of its employees a 'c***'?
In my view, such a petition and the comments it contains should appear to have been fully considered by the signatories and ought to be a measured response to the situation we find ourselves in. Sending a load of bile and vitriol to the club totally undermines the validity of the argument on the opening page.
I appreciate your view is different, I'm just giving mine
Well said
This is my view also.
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| DW guys.
I'm a computer buff
When the petition is ready to sign, i'll export all the signatures into CSV, I can send the names and e-mails, and comments, or just the Names and E-mails (and selected comments) to the hull board. (Most probably end up sending it as a .PDF format.
Or i can simply filter the words on excel such as ",,bitch,ing," etc.
Do you really think i'm going to send it like it is to the directors, although I feel like doing so, because all the names what they have been called by some fans, is fecking true.
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| i'd be tempted to go to a home game with a few ppl and ask wether ppl are happy at paying top money to watch 2nd rate rugby and then say are you happy with the coaching set up and would you be prepared to sign a petition to relieve the club of its current coach.
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| Quote: Dobbo Hull "DW guys.
I'm a computer buff '"
I wouldn't do that. Anything that is remotely abusive (even if it is "loving bitch"icon_wink.gif will be dismissed out of hand.
Quote: Dobbo Hull "Do you really think i'm going to send it like it is to the directors, although I feel like doing so, because all the names what they have been called by some fans, is fecking true.
Lewis'"
You see, I don't think they are. Perhaps the "sh*te coach" style comments are (although they could be worded far more appropriately), but I don't think Agar is a "c***", or any of the other abusive names he's been called.
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| Quote: Dobbo Hull "Im filtering some of the fake and duplicate signatures now aswell.
I'll do as many as possible, although it would be better to filter through them towards the end of the petition, that way it's not a constant task.
lewis'"
I'm guessing this one is not all it would seem. (Although you can't blame her for looking after her man).
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The Independant says: Today the east, which contains the biggest council estate in Europe, is poor, a place of high unemployment and low expectation. The west, which has the city centre and the university, is posh and prosperous. In the Nineties when both teams were not doing well, and the obvious thing to the money men was a merger, the response from both sides was the same: "We're black, we're white, we'll never merge with shite".: |
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| Quote: Rock God X "Sure. For a start, I think the bit about player recruitment has to go. Many people would argue that this has been one of Agar's stronger areas. Mistakes have been made, I think, but there have been some successes as well.
I think the bit about 'all other SL teams' having a top quality proven SL coach has to go as well, as it's not true.
I also thinki the statement needs to be less emotional. I appreciate that emotions are running high at the moment, but it doesn't come across well in a petition that's intended to be presented to the board.
I'd stick to a very general statement about how the off-field set up is not being matched by results (and performances) on the field and how Agar seems unable to get the best out of a decent group of players.
I've never drafted a petition before, but I'd go something along these linesWe, the undersigned, wish to petition for the immediate removal of Richard Agar from his position as Head Coach of Hull FC. We do so on the following grounds
That's just off the top of my head and others might have a better idea of how it ought to be structured than I. Any input is welcome...'"
2. has to go for me... I'm a fan and as a fan I have opinions but I do not work in RL so cannot comment on interchanges or the finer tactical detail which, despite what some on here think, only those directly involved in the game are placed to argue for or against. The coach ain't doing his job.... FACT. I think all the other points are well made.
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The Independant says: Today the east, which contains the biggest council estate in Europe, is poor, a place of high unemployment and low expectation. The west, which has the city centre and the university, is posh and prosperous. In the Nineties when both teams were not doing well, and the obvious thing to the money men was a merger, the response from both sides was the same: "We're black, we're white, we'll never merge with shite".: |
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| Someone should actually start a petition about Hetherington & Rule, the real cancer in our club.... Ask those that work there.
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| To be honest you have hit the nail on the head there. Do you really, honestly have enough faith in your board that they will replace the current coach with anything better?
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| I appreciate the effort and sentiment that is put into this petition (even though I haven't read it), however it is very difficult for people in a private orgainisation to be sacked due to a petition. Calling for the sacking of a person in a public position would work, but unfortunately this is not the case. A form of action such as boycotting (not the best due to the damage it may do to the club financially), a sit in after the game, showing solidaroty by organising people to wear plain white t-shirts with a simple slogan like "Agar goes or I do...."!
To add to this the comment about Kath and Rule is very poignent, these guys are the one consistent in our failings. We are a big club, with a good financial situation however due to wage strcutures, and our insistence on making money instead of making a sucessful club is frustrating. People in the game know how bad they are and as such stay away.
Sorry for my first post to be a rant, but after the start so far it has to be said.
BUT if I am honest I am so pleased and proud to be a supporter of THE best Hull team, it could always be worse things could be red and white.
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| Or how about getting AGAR OUT on the back of your shirts ?
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| Quote: PAC "Or how about getting AGAR OUT on the back of your shirts ?'"
That would be pathetic imo.
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