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| Quote: Airlie the Cat "At the end of the day if supporting the club is in your blood, it's in your blood. During our very quiet car ride home on Sunday night I actually thought how nice it would be to be one of the 'casual' fans who can walk away from going to the games either on a full-time or part-time basis. As much as I was fuming on Sunday having been embarrassed again, I know that I'll be at every game I can get to this season, just like thousands of others. And like Jed, my disappointment didn't come from the fact that we lost to Rovers - it came from the fact that since we lost that play-off game last September we clearly haven't improved one iota. Yes you can argue that the additions of Phelp and Obst will make us better but that's not the point. We shouldn't be scratting around signing those type of players when we've had more than long enough to recruit properly. I know some people on here will say that they don't need 'supporters like me' because I'm being negative about things but how the hell are you supposed to feel about FC at the moment? It's my club who I've supported home and away for 20-odd years and it hurts to see us messing about like we are. In my opinion - and it is purely my own opinion - the people who are saying 'it's only one game, things will come together etc' are kidding themselves. The squad isn't good enough and the coaching isn't good enough. I'll be there on Friday night but it'll be more in hope than anticipation which is bad news really. Apologies to those who don't like 'negativity' but sadly that's the way I feel at the moment.'"
 well put mate!
For me its not just 1 game agar showed me last year through the poor play and lack of game plan in so many games, the facts are that when it mattered and the big games game along we simply was not good enough:
Leeds x 3
wigan x 2
wire x 2
rovers play off game!
yes we finished 6th and possibly should have finished 4th, however i would say this was also to do with other teams under performing for alot of the season, eg leeds huddersfield who play far better rugby and have far better squads than we did/do! I just think if you gave the same squad we have now to someone of kearney/noble's quality then i would be confident of a top 6 finish at least, at the moment i can see us struggling for the eight! |
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| Quote: hullbg "You have just as much right to be negative as others have to be positive. More and more people are coming around to see that things have not changed since Agar took over. Yes we moved up a few places and challenged for 4th spot, but for me the performances were no better than previous seasons.'"
So you reckon that everyone who finished below us last season went hugely backwards while we stood still?
You don't move from 12th place to 6th place and sit in the top 5 for most of the season without improving. It's simply not possible to fluke that kind of form over an entire season. A large chunk of that improvement was down to having better players rather than inspired coaching, but there was improvement nonetheless.
On the evidence of the MM game we'll not make any kind of improvement this season, and that will likely mean us falling back as other sides improve. |
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| Quote: JedRust "Cheers, I am one of the most patient fans with this club and I go home and away every week (except Cardiff at the weekend) even when I lost my leg in 2008 I still managed not to miss a game and I would do anything to watch and support my team, so for me to consider not using my pass on Friday shows how disappointed I am at the moment! It's nothing to do with losing as we all have a good time win or lose home and away but as I said earlier it's the fact this club could be and should be dominating the sport every year!'"
WHY? BASED ON WHAT ?  |
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| Quote: pugwash pal "WHY? BASED ON WHAT ? ![]()
One of the biggest fan bases!
Great commerical and marketing side, Season pass and shirt sales arguably better than anyone else, making a profit year on year, ability to use those profits for trasnfer fees!
Great stadium!
Great youth/infrastructure !
Off the field, business and franchise wise we are on a par if not better than Leeds and Wigan who have been successful in the last few years based on all the above, but they also get the balance of the squad right and with wigan last year it showed how much of a differnce a decent coach makes.
However we don't have the coach/team in my opinion all the above warrants/deserves!
If you have come on here to undermine me and spout that rovers are better at this moment in time then save your breath as you will get no arguments from me as your coach has assembled a squad who can challenge for a top 4 finish in my opinion!
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| Quote: AJK "icon_sad.gif ![]()
Think you maybe wrong, most rational FC fans can accept getting beat by a quality side 
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Think you maybe wrong, most rational FC fans can accept getting beat by a quality side ![]()
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Think you maybe wrong, most rational FC fans can accept getting beat by a quality side ![]()
To be fair that was the impression i got from the Hull fans i spoke with in Cardiff on sunday night.
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| Quote: R.B.A "To be fair that was the impression i got from the Hull fans i spoke with in Cardiff on sunday night.'"
Surprised you took the bite! I was expecting the pug  |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "icon_eek.gif
Surprised you took the bite! I was expecting the pug ![]()
What bite? The Hull fans i spoke with on sunday were happy to concede that Rovers are a quality side. Dont see it as a major drama. For my part i still think that Hull can make the play-offs with some luck with injuries.
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| Quote: R.B.A "What bite? The Hull fans i spoke with on sunday were happy to concede that Rovers are a quality side. Dont see it as a major drama. For my part i still think that Hull can make the play-offs with some luck with injuries.'"
I think you are correct, and I am sure if you guys put some work into your defence you also will make the play-offs, happy days'eh  |
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| Quote: Kosh "So you reckon that everyone who finished below us last season went hugely backwards while we stood still?
You don't move from 12th place to 6th place and sit in the top 5 for most of the season without improving. It's simply not possible to fluke that kind of form over an entire season. A large chunk of that improvement was down to having better players rather than inspired coaching, but there was improvement nonetheless.
On the evidence of the MM game we'll not make any kind of improvement this season, and that will likely mean us falling back as other sides improve.'"
If you read what i say i said our performances did not improve, our playing staff did improve and that was enough to gain those few extra wins. Our play itself was no different from the season before. |
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| Quote: hullbg "If you read what i say i said our performances did not improve, our playing staff did improve and that was enough to gain those few extra wins. Our play itself was no different from the season before.'"
If our performances didn't improve then we wouldn't have won more. Unless you mean something different by performances than how well we played?  |
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No our performances continued to be poor for the majority of the time. however when you add players like Fitz/Meley etc then you are bound to improve over the course of a season.
Do you actually think we played significantly better last season than the season before??
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