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| Quote: berrigans bitch "Are you sure...
To summarise Coaches take no credit for producing youngsters, it is all done at their amaetur clubs...Yes alright 
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| Quote: downtheante " Personally, I don't think Morgan's track record is that good in this regard - S Briscoe, Chester, Cooke , Hodgson or Wheeldon don't/didn't appear to be better players under Morgan. Feel free to correct me if you think otherwise.'"
I agree, I cannot think of one player who he has improved tbh, yet taking that into account, plus the fact Morgan dropped down the league, and has won nothing he is considered the better coach  |
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| Quote: downtheante " Personally, I don't think Morgan's track record is that good in this regard - S Briscoe, Chester, Cooke , Hodgson or Wheeldon don't/didn't appear to be better players under Morgan. Feel free to correct me if you think otherwise.'"
The 1st 3 - agreed, but the later 2 have improved mainly due to getting more game time. Hodgson was never a 1st teamer at your place so it's natural he will improve by getting a regular spot in a SL 17. Perhaps the jury is still out on Wheeldon, the next 2 years may tell. |
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I'm still scratching my head as to who this ONE player Morgan produced is?
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I agree, I cannot think of one player who he has improved tbh, yet taking that into account, plus the fact Morgan dropped down the league, and has won nothing he is considered the better coach ![]()
You appear to only be capable of judging coaching ability on trophy count alone.
Answer me this, who is considered the better of these two Managers: Brian Clough or Kenny Dalglish 
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| Quote: downtheante "Who produced a player? Their parents. After that it is how they are developed that matters - signing a contract just proves they can write.
In my opinion, the development of Houghton, T Briscoe and Moa are very obviously down to Agar. Hall's lack of development, therefore, also ought to be attributed to Agar. Lets' see how Morgan does with him to see if he is better at developing talent. We can directly compare how effectively they each develop players as Rovers have signed several ex-FC players specifically for that purpose. Personally, I don't think Morgan's track record is that good in this regard - S Briscoe, Chester, Cooke , Hodgson or Wheeldon don't/didn't appear to be better players under Morgan. Feel free to correct me if you think otherwise.'"
Shaun Briscoe has being massive for Rovers and would without doubt be one of the 1st names on the teamsheet.
Chester was a quality player in Rovers colours and I can't say a bad thing about him some of the things he produced where world class He's still at Rovers and doing a great job coaching.
Cooke could have being awesome for Rovers but Hull fans will always have a sour taste when his name is mentioned. Truth about Cookie is with his performance against Salford in 2007 and then followed by the display against Hull the week after he simply kept us in Super League which is what I'll always remember him for.
Hodgson has gone from an academy player of the year to a Rovers 1st team player how he doesn't appear to be a better player now is madness.
Wheeldon is an average player, when we signed him he was an average player. To think he'll be anything more then average is madness. He'll do a good job but he'll never be outstanding. |
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "I'm still scratching my head as to who this ONE player Morgan produced is?'"
No Easty claims Agar has only prdocued/developed ONE player, Tom Briscoe inhis opinion. |
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| Quote: SirStan "The 1st 3 - agreed, but the later 2 have improved mainly due to getting more game time. Hodgson was never a 1st teamer at your place so it's natural he will improve by getting a regular spot in a SL 17. Perhaps the jury is still out on Wheeldon, the next 2 years may tell.'"
You see more that I do obviously and I genuinely hope that Hodgson does well. I could see why he left Hull at the time because he was third in the pecking order, now that Berrigan has gone, it seems he acted a little hastily. |
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "I replied top your origninal post before you edited it..keep up ![]()
Now your changing what I've being saying. They take credit in there development. Look back I've never argued that. But in producing or unearthing talent no they don't that comes before the 1st team coach even sets eyes on them.
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| Quote: SirStan "You appear to only be capable of judging coaching ability on trophy count alone. Answer me this, who is considered the better of these two Managers: Brian Clough or Kenny Dalglish ![]()
Do I ?
How come I have mentioned league postition and producing/developing players then, maybe you should read the full thread
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "No Easty claims Agar has only prdocued/developed ONE player, Tom Briscoe inhis opinion.'"
What are you on about? Where have i claimed Agar has only developed one player, Link me exactly where I've said that? |
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